Satisiun Wrote:Brin Ahlrine Wrote:Asyria Wrote:The important question however is... what if they give us male Miqo'te in the future along with an IC explanation of why they suddenly go out adventuring too)?
lol, this is what I've been thinking the whole time. I guess in that case, a huge RETCON would be in order.
That or enjoy your level 1 do-over.Either one isn't exactly going to be the best of situations, especially if SE actually does integrate them at some point. And they have claimed they want to do so, but it being SE, one can never know.
I'd definitely be starting from scratch again. Since there's no PvP I don't need to be too concerned about level vs actual strength IC unless said characters were to spar. Take the character out of RP for awhile until I build the level up a bit. Alternatively I might just make a different character at launch and wait until the PS3 release before I introduce a male Miqo'te to give SE time to determine if they will be adding in males or not.
Siben Wrote:Hey Samus, in case you haven't heard I got linked this by a friend of mine:
http://boards.4chan.org/v/res/73123163
Of note is this image:
http://images.4chan.org/v/src/1284507643386.png
Gratz on makin' it to /v/. You're internet famous now.
Ok, I'm not exactly sure what the hell you're talking about that's just dead end links to 4-chan. I don't know if you're trying to be funny or sarcastic so I'm going to give you a benefit of a doubt here.
Verence Wrote:Back on topic, I guess the crux of the issue here, to me at least, is this... And please don't feel I'm calling you out specifically Samus, this is more sort of my general views on the issue as a whole.
If you don't want people to metagame, don't tell people things they shouldn't know. Everyone who roleplays with a character whose dark secret is public knowledge OOC will be forced to constantly second-guess themselves and weigh "Wait, should my character know as much as I do?" against "Well, could they have reasonably figured this out?" If you want to keep something a secret, the best way to do it is to... well, keep it a secret. Metagaming can be unconscious too, sometimes people simply aren't thinking and something slips out that, after the fact, they go "Oh crap, my char shouldn't know that." In the interest of keeping RP genuine, I prefer not to know things my character doesn't.
I'm honestly hesitant to RP with any character who has a huge secret that I know OOCly but my character doesn't know ICly, because then the whole thing turns into a giant metagaming tapdance and I have the constant fear of cries of "metagamer" hanging over me if I slip up - or perhaps even make an IC discovery I feel is completely legit! It has the potential for drama and for reactions and that's just not something I want to willingly subject myself to. Part of minimizing metagaming is minimizing the opportunities for metagaming. Any RPer worth their salt can keep IC and OOC separate, but mistakes can be made, misunderstandings take place, and feelings can get hurt. It's better to build a fence at the top of a cliff than have an ambulance waiting at the bottom.
If you have an idea that you'd like kept secret but need input and opinions on... Well, contact friends. Send PMs. Post a thread requesting discussion PMs with a general concept. There are also scholars, LS leaders, and knowledgeable people in the community whom I'm sure would be happy to help. I guess all of this simply to say "If people shouldn't know, don't tell them."
I'll keep that in mind. But anyway only those who read my character bio will really know that the character's supposed to be a Miqo'te male. I only asked about it here because I wanted feedback from others on what they thought about the hidden identities and others knowing more than they should. But if keeping the info hidden even from a posted bio is recommended I'll just do that. Or I might just post two versions, one as what people see normally and another with the real info hidden as a spoiler. That way it's there, but as a player you can decide if that's info you really want to know or not.
EDIT: Also sorry for some of my posts throughout this thread, I was just getting a little touchy about the subject and like I had posted in the start of the thread, I have had some experiences where there was an RPer or two who insisted they knew more than they should know. Of course these same individuals had tendencies to break all RP realism by making their characters overly powered and god-like in stature. It just worried me because all my RP experience has been in tightly-knit communities and this time we've got an entire server dedicated to RP. My experiences were always laid back so withholding the individuals who did, I never ran into many problems with meta-gaming and secrets known OOC. And yea, I know, slip-ups happen. I've been victim to doing a few myself but correcting them. My issue was with those who might insist they have some way to discern all this knowledge. My bad for not clarifying it and being so vague, again sorry.
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