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RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? |
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01-30-2015, 08:28 PM
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(01-30-2015, 07:56 PM)Intaki Wrote: Is there anything in the lore that would specifically preclude the insertion of a thaumaturgic gem into an organic staff conducive to conjury? And on a slightly related note, does a master of arcanima absolutely need a book of spells or can the geometric patterns be invoked from memory?

It's an interesting thought, but I couldn't say for sure since there's no lore evidence of it ever happening before. That is to say, no Magi (that we know of) has yet tried to master both Conjury and Thaumaturgy, giving little need to establish a dual-medium stave. However, given that the lore only specifically states that these mediums are used in the casting of magic, I don't see why a gemstone could be embedded into an organic stave to produce a dual-foci? Similar to something like Gandalf's staff in Lord of the Rings.

On the subject of needing the foci to cast, the lore seems to bend towards needing them, but does not outright state they are required to perform even the most simple of spells. What the mediums allow for is a focus to channel and condense aether into a physical manifestation of magic. So for Conjurers, the living staff allows them to feel nature's touch within their grasp. For Thaumaturges, the gemstone creates a focal point to direct their aether into. For Arcanists, the aetherially augmented ink within the grimoires allows for easier conduction of energies from the caster through the tome.

I would say that it is within the realm of possibility that a master at one of these schools would be able to perform spells without such mediums, but from the way the magic seems to be described it might dampen his/her potential?

Anyways, here's the original text about the mediums:
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Quote:“In the hands of a skilled practitioner, thaumaturgy can be a force of terrifying destruction. At the heart of this school of magic lies the ability to call forth and command the latent aether within oneself through deep introspection.
To then mold that aether into sorcery, the thaumaturge makes use of a scepter or staff, within which is housed a medium—a natural stone imbued with magical properties. Thus armed, the thaumaturge is capable of wreaking considerable havoc via ruinous spells and curses.”

Quote:“Conjury calls upon the elements of earth, wind, and water and concentrates them to a potency at which spells can be weaved. Through practiced meditation on the essences of creation, conjurers draw forth and absorb aether from their immediate surroundings. A wand or cane made from unworked wood is then utilized to focus the aether until it manifests as the desired spell. Versed also in magicks that restore and strengthen, conjurers are regarded as accomplished healers.”

Quote:“Adepts of the art of arcanum derive their might from symbols of power born of geometric techniques hailing from across the southern seas. Held within occult grimoires, these symbols lend shape to the arcanist's aether, thereby allowing him to produce myriad powerful spells.
Using the selfsame symbols to unlock the latent power contained within gemstones, arcanists are also able to summon forth the familiar known as Carbuncle to carry out their bidding.”

-Taken from the Lodestone.


EDIT: Thought I'd read somewhere about Arcanists and their grimoires lately so took a look through my notes. Sure enough, we have this explanation from the Lv.25 Alchemist Quest.

Anonymous Arcanist Wrote:For an arcanist to weave his spells, he must conjure in his mind the image of distinct mystical diagrams known as arcane geometries. These geometries are inscribed upon the pages of a grimoire, such as the one you constructed at my request.

The most important aspect of any grimoire is the quality of the ink used to illustrate its pages. Geometries drawn with ink that is especially conductive to the flow of aether allow the arcanist to more effectively channel his magical strength.

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Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by just Vic - 01-30-2015, 04:58 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by E'irawen - 01-30-2015, 05:31 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Sounsyy - 01-30-2015, 05:58 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by V'aleera - 01-30-2015, 07:56 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Sounsyy - 01-30-2015, 08:28 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Melkire - 01-30-2015, 06:08 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Kellach Woods - 01-30-2015, 07:42 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Aduu Avagnar - 01-30-2015, 07:47 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Kellach Woods - 01-30-2015, 08:55 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Naunet - 01-30-2015, 10:22 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by V'aleera - 01-31-2015, 01:23 AM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Chillsmack - 01-31-2015, 12:53 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Naunet - 01-31-2015, 01:27 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Desu Nee - 01-31-2015, 01:33 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 01-31-2015, 02:03 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Sounsyy - 01-31-2015, 02:54 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by just Vic - 01-31-2015, 02:24 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 01-31-2015, 02:32 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Recoil - 01-31-2015, 03:04 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Lost River - 01-31-2015, 03:11 PM
RE: Conjury and / or Thaumaturgy? - by Cocotsu - 01-31-2015, 03:47 PM

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