(02-15-2015, 09:11 PM)Val Wrote:(02-15-2015, 08:12 PM)Kilborne Bloodbane Wrote: Surely all of these people deserved to be banned without any notice for their profanity-ridden arguments, hatemail, harassment, and death threats.
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Look at this inflammatory, hateful thread title!Â
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At least this guy tweeted a polite "warning" to indie devs who might think about supporting gamergate.
https://archive.today/Tcx3M
And on 4chan, of all places...
http://imgur.com/a/NkevG
Also, collusion...
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And that's not even getting into the harassment. Y'know, like shutting down this charity...
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Or supporters being sent wonderful gifts like this...
https://archive.today/27y57
And the idea that anything can be a taboo topic based on the whims of moderators is really, really shady. Censorship is wrong 100% of the time, and in this case the "censorship" was somehow justified because every single discussion was hateful and derogatory? You would have to go through some insane mental gymnastics to believe that.
1.) This link is reddit being reddit. Out of context, there isn't much to say for or against this link. If they'd already put up the statement that Gamergate shouldn't be talked about, then yeah, they can shadowban people left and right.
2.) I don't know why these people jumped down their throat. He's right. The internet is forever, and anything that is said on it should be considered with rational thought rather than jumping at someone because of a difference of opinion. Ironic, isn't it?
3.) Same as Reddit. Obviously it was a banned URL and something that they didn't want to have to deal with again. Rules are rules.
4.) I already covered this in my long-winded response previously. I still don't see the point you're trying to make. So what if they hung out together? It's one review. Gone Home received a TON of reviews that both said it was great and horrid. Why focus on one that gave it a 10 when there's others?Â
5.) All I see is another example of someone not wanting to deal with this crap anymore. Quinn got death threat after death threat after death threat. Why would they risk the same?
6.) Yes, because only one side does things like that. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzoKKRqIMAA8kaf.png
You're going to find pricks on both sides of the movement like that. That woman actually had to leave her house because her address was posted online and people talked about going to find and rape her and kill her family.
1) Except there was no reason to ban the discussion. The comments were civil. There was nothing illegal about discussing gamergate, and it was on a board dedicated to that discussion. Funny how child porn can be tolerated on reddit, but talking about games journalism can't.
2) Except if you read his responses he states that being associated with Gamergate immediately makes you a harasser. Association fallacy.
3) 4chan is (in)famous for allowing anything to be talked about. Gamergate started on 4chan and stayed there for months. Then we find out that the the owner, moot, was associated with some of the game journalists around the same time the discussion suddenly became taboo.
4) Again, it's called collusion. You focus on that because, uh... it's the problem you see?
5) Except that this kickstarter was hacked by an anti-gg supporter. It was a charity run by the Fine Young Capitalists that was backed by 4chan. Guilt by association apparently!
6) The difference is that Gamergate refuses to tolerate harassment
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and in case helped a victim of it.
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I agree that both sides have pricks. The sad thing is that most people believe that those people make up the entirety of Gamergate, when they're just a minority that everyone in the movement distances themselves from.