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But, I will say that I myself and several others I know aren't fond of inordinate amounts of OOC spam and have, numerous times in the past, muted OoC and will likely continue to do so intermittently here in Intermission. Heck, I even know a few who've stated their desire NOT to join precisely to avoid OOC spam. So, it's significantly more than 2. 15-20? No clue. That'd take a survey, and fact of the matter is that if ENOUGH people want it BAD enough, they'll probably speak up themselves. Me? I'm happy just muting - people can do what they want, and I'll do what I want. This approach does mean we'll "lose" a few members every so often when they mute and miss event and RP announcements, but the debate as to whether or not this is worth the heightened enjoyment and interaction of those who enjoy OOC chatting isn't one I'll get into here. The LS is what it is; until and unless the need for change is highlighted, it will probably remain so. If more and more voices speak up, limiting OOC chatter is something to consider, but until then, attempting to silence such voices out of hand accomplishes relatively little.
As for OOC chatter disrupting RP discussions, I'd suggest adopting a guideline somewhat similar to the following, which the past two RP LS's I've been in have adopted to fair success: Defer to RP discussions. Chatting about your new car is fine and dandy, but if a discussion about, say... I don't know, the appropriateness of post-modernistic literature in Eorzea springs up, people ought to politely defer and tone down their non-RP discussion or take it to /tells so as not to drown out the discussion of RP. This takes a certain amount of tact and consideration from both sides, but then if we can't scrape that together, we're doomed before we've begun.
That last bit is a bit of a concern to me, since I've seen... For lack of a better term, a sort of belligerent contrariness among some of the members of Intermission when people are simply stating their own views on RP. Saying what you think is not an attack and should not be met with aggression. People have views - often contradictory views - but unless they start pointing fingers and obviously referencing characters or incidents, their opinion ought to be respected. I'm not saying you can't argue against it, but keep it classy... I've seen reactions that range the gamut from subtly spiteful to blatantly petty.
Gospel Wrote:I understand some people want this shell to be a no real life talk and event planning shell only but... I'm sorry to say, that was not the intention of why this shell was created. As it stands now, unless I get more people to vote for this, It's 2 people's vote for no real life talk against 74. I've already said I'm not going to cater to the demands of one or two people. I will only change rules if a large majority wants change. If you want numbers, given that we have 77 members in the shell... I would feel that if they can pull together 15 or 20 votes that would be enough to suffice a change or at least a very heavy notice to consider a change in rules.It's never a good idea to speak for those who haven't spoken for themselves unless you're confident of what they'll say. Never discount the silent ones in any given community; it's dangerous ground to claim to speak for everyone. I'm not saying this to say "So we should discourage OOC chatter!" Clearly a number of individuals enjoy that, and if they do, I'm sure not going to tell them they can't. Discourage people from doing what they want and they'll find somewhere else to do it, and the key to the success of this shell is keeping people using it.
But, I will say that I myself and several others I know aren't fond of inordinate amounts of OOC spam and have, numerous times in the past, muted OoC and will likely continue to do so intermittently here in Intermission. Heck, I even know a few who've stated their desire NOT to join precisely to avoid OOC spam. So, it's significantly more than 2. 15-20? No clue. That'd take a survey, and fact of the matter is that if ENOUGH people want it BAD enough, they'll probably speak up themselves. Me? I'm happy just muting - people can do what they want, and I'll do what I want. This approach does mean we'll "lose" a few members every so often when they mute and miss event and RP announcements, but the debate as to whether or not this is worth the heightened enjoyment and interaction of those who enjoy OOC chatting isn't one I'll get into here. The LS is what it is; until and unless the need for change is highlighted, it will probably remain so. If more and more voices speak up, limiting OOC chatter is something to consider, but until then, attempting to silence such voices out of hand accomplishes relatively little.
As for OOC chatter disrupting RP discussions, I'd suggest adopting a guideline somewhat similar to the following, which the past two RP LS's I've been in have adopted to fair success: Defer to RP discussions. Chatting about your new car is fine and dandy, but if a discussion about, say... I don't know, the appropriateness of post-modernistic literature in Eorzea springs up, people ought to politely defer and tone down their non-RP discussion or take it to /tells so as not to drown out the discussion of RP. This takes a certain amount of tact and consideration from both sides, but then if we can't scrape that together, we're doomed before we've begun.
That last bit is a bit of a concern to me, since I've seen... For lack of a better term, a sort of belligerent contrariness among some of the members of Intermission when people are simply stating their own views on RP. Saying what you think is not an attack and should not be met with aggression. People have views - often contradictory views - but unless they start pointing fingers and obviously referencing characters or incidents, their opinion ought to be respected. I'm not saying you can't argue against it, but keep it classy... I've seen reactions that range the gamut from subtly spiteful to blatantly petty.