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RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? |
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05-11-2015, 07:17 AM
(05-10-2015, 11:18 PM)Flickering Ember Wrote: Is there a lore explanation for why conjurers used to be able to use all elements but can now only use three? Do people RP as still being able to use them or do they RP as fire, lightning, and ice being closed off to them? Is it something people completely regard as a game mechanics thing or do people generally think that the elements conjurers have in game is what they get?

I'll quote myself from this thread on the topic for expediency:

(04-15-2015, 10:20 PM)Sounsyy Wrote:
(04-15-2015, 10:08 PM)Skhai Nunh Wrote: Is there any lore to explain why Conjurers can't cast these spells any more? Why there was such a shift?
It was a complete retcon acknowledged by Fernehalwes at the Las Vegas Lore Panel. The Battle Team came to the lore team and told them that they were making CNJ into healer and THM into damage and splitting the elemental wheel between the two. Lore Team said that wasn't possible in lore, but weren't allowed a say in the final revision of 2.0 class mechanics. SO.

1.0 Class mechanics actually fall in line with Eorzean Lore. 2.0 Classes... not so much. There is not (and according to Fernehalwes) never will be any lore to substantiate the change. They just swept it under the rug and hoped players wouldn't notice. That said, if you want your CNJ to have full access to the Elemental Wheel like it did in 1.0, go for it. The lore actually supports it, despite 2.0 mechanics not supporting it. The 2.0 Quest, "The Greatest Stories Never Told" actually references the 1.0 Conjury Elemental Wheel described in the book Essences and Permutations: A Treatise of the Six Elements. Meaning the lore is still canon and there, even if mechanics choose not to follow it.

So while there was a fairly big cover-over of the lore... the lore was not retconned completely, because in 2.2(?) they added in a Lore Quest called "The Greatest Stories Never Told" and in it they explicitly reference Essences and Permutations and the Conjurer's complete Elemental Wheel. So... clearly the lore team has not forgotten, even if game mechanics have.

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the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by SayonaraRevival - 05-10-2015, 08:41 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Sounsyy - 05-10-2015, 09:48 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Flickering Ember - 05-10-2015, 11:18 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 05-11-2015, 12:30 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Flickering Ember - 05-11-2015, 12:35 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Sounsyy - 05-11-2015, 07:17 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 05-10-2015, 09:53 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by allgivenover - 05-10-2015, 11:09 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 05-10-2015, 11:12 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by allgivenover - 05-10-2015, 11:14 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by allgivenover - 05-10-2015, 11:29 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Gone. - 05-11-2015, 01:59 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by LiadansWhisper - 05-11-2015, 04:04 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Warren Castille - 05-11-2015, 09:28 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Gegenji - 05-11-2015, 09:30 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Warren Castille - 05-11-2015, 09:32 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by allgivenover - 05-11-2015, 08:26 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Gegenji - 05-11-2015, 09:33 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 05-11-2015, 09:57 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by SayonaraRevival - 05-11-2015, 12:30 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Gegenji - 05-11-2015, 12:33 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 05-11-2015, 12:48 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by ArmachiA - 05-11-2015, 02:27 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Aduu Avagnar - 05-12-2015, 07:26 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Oats McGoats - 05-12-2015, 10:12 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by allgivenover - 05-12-2015, 10:21 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Oats McGoats - 05-12-2015, 04:42 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 05-12-2015, 04:46 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Warren Castille - 05-12-2015, 02:03 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Edda - 05-12-2015, 02:08 PM

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