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ArmachiA · **05-28-2015, 09:20 AM**

(05-28-2015, 08:06 AM)Enteris Wrote:

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Spoiler for spoilersThe first is right here in this very game and, honestly, I'm surprised no one has mentioned it since many of the people in this thread claimed it to be "such good writing... I cried my eyes out..." etc. In Ul'dah, the non-heroes won. And if the HW trailer is anything to go by, it doesn't look like something that is going to be "fixed" any time soon.

The second is in Arrow (the TV series). Perhaps a controversial win, but the damage was still done. Malcolm still killed a ton of people with his earthquake machine and the effects of it are felt into the next season (granted I'm only now going through Season 2, so if they somehow reverse the earthquake's effects and bring all those people back to life, my apologies for bringing this up.) Now, of course he did die, but... he still did his villainous act.

To be fair it's pretty clear in this storyline the bad guys are winning temporarily, which generally does happen in a GOOD story. They win for now, but eventually the status quo will be set right again by Raubahn getting his revenge, us seeing our friends again, and the WoL saving the day. I really like long storylines, and I don't believe villains should ALWAYS lose, but they do eventually lose in the end. I mean if you're playing a Garlean, you know eventually the Garlean Empire is going to lose, the devs are definitely going to do that at some point, so that's something a Garlean player will have to prepare for. Eventually, they will lose. Should villains always lose? Hell no. I mean, look at your Heavensward example, one of the reasons we're so excited about it is because it's happening right at the lowest point in the story. All the bad guys are winning! What will happen to our hero? That always makes for great drama to SEE the hero at their lowest point, and it's an amazing narrative point in RP.
It's hard to find people who want a really narrative experience (Sometimes the bad guys win and everything looks bleak) and don't just want to win against the bad guy as soon as they are introduced.

And the "Villian" FCs I know about are Tylwyth Narah and Regnum Garlemald (Who play Garleans). As far as I know, both FCs work very closely with storytellers of other FCs, using their characters as foils for the other Fcs "heros" but they still have completely 100% control of their character. Which is fair.

Roleplaying the bad guy

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