(06-09-2015, 07:17 AM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote:no is bullying anyone against playing it, rather, we are choosing to say that, if we are incompatable, we reserve our right to not rp with someone. No one is policing RP, no one is saying not to RP what you want, just that we, personally do not see how it can work in lore.(06-08-2015, 10:31 PM)Sounsyy Wrote: What do you mean what does 1.0 have to do with 2.0? The Calamity was 1.0... does that mean it does not exist because it is now 2.0? I don't understand. This is the lore of the world as of five years ago. Just because every bit of 1.0 lore has not resurfaced immediately into 2.0 does not mean that it ceases to exist?
Much of 1.0 was officially retconned and dusted up under the rug. If it is not mention in 2.0, it's not of importance. If it does get mentioned, then sure, I'll change my mind, but until that point, it's an exercise in futility and expecting the community to know about it, much less actually give any thought or regard to matter, is frankly absurd. We can't play 1.0 anymore and SQX doesn't want us to remember it; there IS a reason 2.0 is so seamless in its presentation and this would be why.
(06-09-2015, 02:32 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: Some Jobs actually use the Soul Crystal to pass on the knowledge of the skills involved in the Job (Scholar is, in a way, one of them, since the Soul Crystal carries the Fairy who bypasses the learning you'd otherwise have had to go through to master Scholar abilities). Â White Mage is not one of them. Â The Soul Crystal you receive during the quest doesn't have the knowledge of White Magic in it. Â It simply marks you as A-Towa-Can'ts chosen heir and provides you with the in to learn Succor from the Seedseer siblings.
And it has been mentioned in-game.
Except that's not all you find out from Raya-O-Senna, and that's a tiny, tiny portion of the Lore surrounding White Magic and Amdapor.
That's why the PC holds up their soul crystal every time they learn a new skill, right? I mean, it happens every five levels regardless of which job you're playing as.
Please, show us where in-game with some screenshots.
(06-09-2015, 02:32 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: Except that's not all you find out from Raya-O-Senna, and that's a tiny, tiny portion of the Lore surrounding White Magic and Amdapor.
Once again, give us proof. I don't recall it at all and I've always paid a great deal of attention to job quests.
(06-09-2015, 02:32 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: I've never said you can't play a White Mage, dear. Â You can play whatever you want. Â I reserve the right to say, "Hey, that doesn't fit Lore." Â If that pisses you off, I'm sorry, but it is the truth. Â You have the power to do whatever you want in the game. Â That is entirely your decision and absolutely no one else can tell you that you can't do something. Â But we can disagree with you and point out that you are mistaken about the justifications you are making for your RP, from a Lore perspective.
I don't even play a white mage anymore, so why are you turning this on me?
And really? 'Dear'? Could you be any more flagrantly condescending?
You can disagree if you want, but please do us all a favor and bring something other than hearsay. Show me in the game where it's referred to, otherwise you're just arguing for the sake.
(06-09-2015, 02:49 AM)ArmachiA Wrote: And does every White Mage discussion have to devolve into "Why won't you play with me?" and get turned into a big ol fight over who's "elitist" and who's not?
Truth is, I don't want to RP with you, Liadan, Nako, etc. I find your collective approach to RP stifling, restrictive, patronizing and counter-intuitive to the experience at a base level and I will not tolerate anyone bullying a new player away from playing a classic Final Fantasy job that's been there from the very first game, not when there's a number of legitimate possibilities that make it plausible.
Heaven forbid we welcome people with open arms as opposed to shunning them for something completely and utterly inane. Treat people as we'd like to be treated, etc. Is that really so hard to understand?
And as I have always said, if you can make it work, in a feasible matter, then fine, lets do that shit. The only restriction I put on my rp is that the person I RP with has put in at least some effort to follow what is presented. If that means that I RP with less people, then fine, so be it.
Also, I don't remember reading anywhere about the lore from 1.0 being retconned. Please, present us with your proof on this.
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