(06-09-2015, 02:32 PM)Intaki Wrote: Right, killing White Mages does accomplish the goal of "taking back" Succor but that's a little beside the point; by that logic anyone can "take back" Succor. The point remains that the Elementals have not been shown to have anything more than above average killing power and sheer numbers.Â
They were incapable of stopping Dalamud and Bahamut. Ramah was killing the Shroud slowly and was not stopped. The Garleans have yet to be removed.Â
The Elementals may be powerful, but they are not the gods that some posters and most Gridanians seem to believe.
Here's the thing.
Preflood: WHMs didn't need Elementals for Succor.
Postflood: Elementals pick and choose who they will let use Succor.
So....I guess -if- someone found a soulstone/reading material from before the flood AND somehow understood it AND somehow figured out how to cast it, there's your nefarious means WHM without Elemental consent. However, if a person somehow figured that all out, would they start prancing around the forest rubbing it in people's faces? Probably not. If anything, I think Gridanians would try to remove that person from the Shroud as soon as fucking possible because they don't want an Elemental getting pissed off at old contracts being skirted around.