(06-09-2015, 02:43 PM)Intaki Wrote: I think it would be more appropriate to say they pick and choose who to teach Succor to. Because as the history of the world itself shows once that knowledge leaves the Elementals proverbial lips it is beyond their control what gets done with it.
As far as I am aware the White Mages still learned from the Elementals in the old days. But unlike the Padjal they spread that knowledge far and wide.
(06-09-2015, 03:45 PM)Intaki Wrote:(06-09-2015, 02:55 PM)ArmachiA Wrote: I honestly just don't believe the Elementals wouldn't know if someone accessed the Succor without their permission. They have such tight control on it, it just doesn't make sense they wouldn't know."Would they know" is an interesting question. But "can they do anything about it other than throw a violent tantrum" appears to be largely answered by existing lore: no, they can't.
I'm certainly open to being proven wrong, but if the Elementals can just flip a switch and turn off the Succor at will, and if existing White Mages can not bring more mages into the fold, it calls into question all of the history and actions taken in regard to the subject.
Find myself agreeing with this, given my impressions of the portions of the WHM job quests I've experienced and from lore that folks have posted on these forums over the past year and more.
Elementals, from what I understand, don't have ultimate control over Succor. Their "permission" to use it merely amounts to allowing the knowledge of how to access and how to use Succor to disseminate. If that wasn't the case, I don't see how or why they would have allowed to War of the Magi to go on as long as it did.
The Padjal serve in a "middle-man" capacity, having been created to safeguard said knowledge while practicing White Magic when and where it is required.