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(06-09-2015, 07:40 PM)Addison Wrote: Did they not say they were streamlining the process by upping the EXP rewards for the MSQ?Yes? But its not exactly relevant since they're requiring MSQ completion which will be significantly more work than leveling to 50.
Quote:Why not? Everyone else did it. Why should new players like me get a free ride? You know the biggest complaint I hear from veterans in other games? "This guy joined the game 2 weeks ago, has a max level character, and doesn't know jack shit about the mechanics."Free ride? Free ride? What's a free ride in a GAME? Trust me, anyone who doesn't understand the mechanics by level 50 isn't going to suddenly learn them because they completed the MSQ.
Quote:Where are all these new players complaining about this? I haven't seen them. Perhaps you can point them out to me, because all I keep seeing in this thread is veteran players speaking for new players, as if they understand what it's like rolling a new character with minimal knowledge of the game.Friends from other MMOs and RL that I've talked to about FF. I always make a point to mention the MSQ and how it gates gameplay, and so far at least, its earned universal eye-brow-raising (my initial response when I found out about it too). I don't know many FF players, and maybe that's the problem, as I've said elsewhere I am not the target audience of this game. It shouldn't be surprising that I don't exactly care for it, but that doesn't mean that my opinion is wrong or somehow invalid or unworthy of expression.Â
Quote:And they simply don't. You're talking from your experiences as someone who's been there/done that. You don't want to do the MSQ because you've done it. You've seen it. You know what happens. That's fine. But new players haven't done the MSQ. That's why they're called new players. Who is it really harming that new players need to do the MSQ to access later content? Certainly not you. So what's the issue here?Since I joined the game its been my least favorite part of it. That just hasn't changed! I'm just really disappointed that new players don't get to hit level 50, and then start on the 50+ MSQ separate from the 1-50 MSQ from ARR.
Quote:Sell what concept? That there's an entire world to explore that's still relevant for new players? That new players don't have to feel rushed towards expansion content because SE made the decision to keep the core game relevant for anyone who happened to say "Ya know, I'm gonna give FFXIV a go." Yea...that's utterly dreadful. How dare they?Its not exploration. Its a straight-jacket, linear, ridiculously long quest chain behind which almost every relevant game feature is gated. The world to explore is entirely independent and separate from the gormless entity known as the MSQ. I do realize that some people like the MSQ for whatever reason. It does have its moments. But I don't think its fair to Final Fantasy to somehow sell it as being the game, or the game world itself. It is far far from it.
Edit: I also think it should be completely accessible to players who wish to complete it. I just don't think it should be required. Reaching level 50 should be sufficient to begin Heavensward content, and I think many people who try Heavensward who didn't play ARR will expect that. Some won't mind the surprise, others will.
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