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RE:How are people going to deal with firearms?Thread mostly aimed at the melee people |
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06-10-2015, 01:18 PM
I always find it kind of campy that people immediately run to the, "Who's stronger?!" ideal. But since we do need to do that, let's take a look back through memory lane of Final Fantasy in general.

Final Fantasy has a very common theme of magic vs. technology, with one of the two seemingly being bad or just forgotten/shunned. So it's not uncommon in the setting to see people with swords and magic fighting against people with rifles and sniper rifles.

Taking a look at our shining boys from FFVII we get a very clear image of people dealing with getting shot and still running around fighting. In the most extreme of cases, we've got Zack Fair who took several shots throughout his entire body - of course he was a super powered freak, but it's the most extreme case.

It's also not uncommon for the laws that govern our reality to hold no part in the worlds of Final Fantasy. Armoring that defies our knowledge of physics and the forces that matter in reality often don't matter at all to Final Fantasy. Again, looking at FFVII - specifically Advent Children - we get to see the classic party all helping out Cloud, jumping up and throwing him higher in the air. There's also plenty of examples from FFXIII and even as far back as FFIV with the death defying party that fought against Baron and its technological might.

It's commonplace within the worlds of Final Fantasy for the sword-toting folk to need to be able to stand against those who utilize guns. Whether they're just able to take and shrug off several shots in general or the fact that their armor is made with the weapons specifically in mind is up in the air, but it's no question that throughout the stories this is a thing.

But getting more onto the topic of the MCH class in general, I think we really need to take a look at the availability of the technology in question and why they're receiving it. As far as we know, Cid's Workshop came up with quite a few goodies to help defending against the Dravanians. I think it's safe to assume that the majority of MCH - those actually utilizing what the class entails - are not going to be running around swinging their guns around and acting like bandits when they quite obviously have bigger fish to fry.

Quote:Following the example of Cid Garlond, who has demonstrated the potency of magitek, the Skysteel Manufactory works tirelessly on the development of advanced armaments. As new and devastating weapons are brought to the fray, a new class of champion arises to wield them ― the machinist.

There's also the fantastic point of how people are capable of standing against the might of the Garlean Empire. Considering there was a rather sizable force here in Eorzea and we're all running around using all manner of "inferior" weaponry compared to their tech and even their mech suits, we were capable of standing against them without. Sure, the Warrior of Light + allies managed to commandeer one of them, but I'm referring to the basic, rank and file soldier that was fighting while the Warrior of Light was doing his heroism. If the basic rank and file soldier stood something of a chance, which they clearly did when looking at the Battle at Cartenau and then throughout all the other battles to come, then there's got to be some manner of defense implied against guns, otherwise it'd just be instant auto-kill shots.
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How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by OttoVann - 06-06-2015, 12:26 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Lilia Lia - 06-06-2015, 12:36 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by OttoVann - 06-06-2015, 12:45 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Lilia Lia - 06-06-2015, 12:51 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Sounsyy - 06-06-2015, 12:40 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by allgivenover - 06-06-2015, 01:40 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Iex - 06-06-2015, 12:42 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by OttoVann - 06-06-2015, 12:49 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Sophia_Grave - 06-06-2015, 12:55 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by OttoVann - 06-06-2015, 01:02 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Kellach Woods - 06-06-2015, 01:10 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by LiadansWhisper - 06-06-2015, 01:26 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by allgivenover - 06-06-2015, 01:33 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Edgar - 06-06-2015, 01:35 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Kellach Woods - 06-06-2015, 01:44 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Mae - 06-06-2015, 01:47 PM
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RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Aduu Avagnar - 06-06-2015, 02:15 PM
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RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Gegenji - 06-06-2015, 02:31 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Caspar - 06-06-2015, 02:36 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Verad - 06-06-2015, 02:57 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by OttoVann - 06-06-2015, 03:26 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Gegenji - 06-06-2015, 03:57 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by OttoVann - 06-06-2015, 04:07 PM
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How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Flashhelix - 06-06-2015, 03:35 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Kellach Woods - 06-06-2015, 04:05 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by TheLastCandle - 06-06-2015, 04:34 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by OttoVann - 06-06-2015, 04:36 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by TheLastCandle - 06-06-2015, 04:41 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Zelmanov - 06-06-2015, 04:36 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Chris Ganale - 06-06-2015, 04:55 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by OttoVann - 06-06-2015, 05:14 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Fox - 06-06-2015, 07:44 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by OttoVann - 06-06-2015, 04:44 PM
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RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Lilia Lia - 06-06-2015, 04:53 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Chris Ganale - 06-06-2015, 05:26 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by Aaron - 06-06-2015, 05:31 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by cuideag - 06-06-2015, 05:35 PM
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RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by McBeefâ„¢ - 06-06-2015, 05:59 PM
RE: How are people going to deal with firearms? Thread mostly aimed at the melee people - by OttoVann - 06-06-2015, 06:05 PM
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