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06-17-2015, 05:00 PM
(06-17-2015, 03:53 PM)Spiritual Machine Wrote: Easiest thing would have just been to introduce Au Ra NPCs a bit more in advance. I doubt SE care what any of you folks think with regard to roleplay acceptance, but it would have at least been more interesting from the perspective of world-building. It's fair to have expected better of them in that regard.

Then again, maybe there will be a Postmoogle quest that explains everything!

People will just have to accept, though, that we aren't going to know everything about the world, and we should be ready to adapt to changes added into the game with either the surprise or knowing acceptance of our characters (whichever is appropriate). Like, how many people would have been a member of the Rogue's guild if they knew it was a thing before 2.4?

If your character has to know everything about unknown lands, and even everything about who or what can exist in Eorzea at present, then you're going to be doing a lot of backtracking and retconning. Welcome to MMOs.

And no, the Quicksand is not the center of the universe, no matter how many people contribute gravity to it.

On topic, it's the avoidance of addressing these unrealistic expectations that has sparked all these weighty discussions about the impact of things like Glamours and Fantasias. Otherwise I imagine they might be more relegated to the occasional stray plot device where they belong.

Indeed. Bolded in particular speaks to me. If more folks questioned these kinds of things it probably wouldn't have become quite as, for lack of a better word, ubiquitous as it has now. But it is what it is.

I wonder how difficult it would have been for SE to seed a few more Au Ra NPCs around the world pre-Heavensward. Certainly would have made the whole thing easier to swallow.

But as mentioned before, a large part of it is really because race is something that is difficult to change and justify changing, as opposed to classes and location changes where you can easily pick up on them. It's a problem unique to the addition of entirely new phenotypes to the game world.

(06-17-2015, 04:37 PM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote: Then keep to yourself and don't RP with them if bothers you that much. Of course I think your idea of what is or isn't plausible is overly conservative, but hey, if that's how you feel then that's how you feel. Just don't drag the rest of us down with you, yeah?

But... why?

I am just as well within my rights to speak my piece on this matter as much as you are. I can see that you feel pretty strongly about this, but that doesn't mean I'm going to silence myself purely for your sake.

Maybe it's because I'm a bit detached from this whole thing to begin with, but calling for silence feels like a serious overreaction to me. I'm just discussing it and letting my feelings known. If you don't like me referring to pre-Heavensward Au Ra players as displaying a lack of patience or such actions being referred to as 'silly' or, then fair enough, but these are extremely mild observations and really not worth digging a ditch for.

(And I'm unsure how you came to the conclusion that my ideas of what is plausible are "overly conservative", given all the questions about glamours Gegenji has raised that are still largely unanswered...)
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The Glamour of It All! - by Gegenji - 06-17-2015, 10:30 AM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Telluride - 06-17-2015, 10:35 AM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Gegenji - 06-17-2015, 11:32 AM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Lilia Lia - 06-17-2015, 10:58 AM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by K'nahli - 06-17-2015, 12:01 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Gegenji - 06-17-2015, 12:23 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Aya - 06-17-2015, 12:05 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Spiritual Machine - 06-17-2015, 12:08 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Lilia Lia - 06-17-2015, 12:41 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Erik Mynhier - 06-17-2015, 12:42 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Gegenji - 06-17-2015, 12:56 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Erik Mynhier - 06-17-2015, 01:26 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Spiritual Machine - 06-17-2015, 12:42 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Gone. - 06-17-2015, 12:49 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Zyrusticae - 06-17-2015, 01:28 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Lilia Lia - 06-17-2015, 01:41 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Cato - 06-17-2015, 12:55 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Gone. - 06-17-2015, 02:10 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Gegenji - 06-17-2015, 02:30 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Flickering Ember - 06-17-2015, 01:12 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Lilia Lia - 06-17-2015, 01:26 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Spethah - 06-17-2015, 01:26 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Spiritual Machine - 06-17-2015, 01:27 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Magellan - 06-17-2015, 01:58 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Gegenji - 06-17-2015, 02:08 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Arik - 06-17-2015, 02:04 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Aya - 06-17-2015, 02:11 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Spiritual Machine - 06-17-2015, 02:26 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Lilia Lia - 06-17-2015, 02:31 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by K'nahli - 06-17-2015, 03:03 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Aaron - 06-17-2015, 02:40 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Gegenji - 06-17-2015, 02:42 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Lilia Lia - 06-17-2015, 02:46 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Gegenji - 06-17-2015, 02:59 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Lilia Lia - 06-17-2015, 03:09 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Zyrusticae - 06-17-2015, 03:32 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Spiritual Machine - 06-17-2015, 03:53 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Gone. - 06-17-2015, 04:37 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Zyrusticae - 06-17-2015, 05:00 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Lilia Lia - 06-17-2015, 05:12 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Aaron - 06-17-2015, 02:43 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Kyrrae L'minia - 06-17-2015, 03:43 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Aaron - 06-17-2015, 04:54 PM
RE: The Glamour of It All! - by Spiritual Machine - 06-17-2015, 05:23 PM

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