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(06-26-2015, 01:23 PM)Hammersmith Wrote:It isn't institutionalised racism, no, but it is still discrimination. 2 was a typo and was meant to say sexuality, rather than sexually.(06-26-2015, 01:13 PM)Nako Wrote: May I ask, if you cannot discriminate against a group that holds all of the power, what then do you call the following?1)Racially motivated isn't institutionalized racism. Â A black guy can say "Fuck this white guy" and do something. Â However when the day comes in court, the overwhelming body of evidence points towards Whitey having the advantage. Â Much less if the police show up for...anything...in any situation. Â Like I said: You can personally discriminate against white people but when push will come to shove, the law, the country, and the powers that be overwhelmingly favour white people. Â The harm is not coming against White people any more than it always has. Â
Racially motivated attacks against white people?
Sexually motivated attacks against Straight people?
Gender motivated attacks against men?
while they may be rare, they do happen, and they are discrimination.
However, I agree with your statement regarding never being able to truly feel and understand a form of discrimination if you have not experienced it, that doesn't mean that people can't relate due to being discriminated against in another manner.
What we experience is classified as NORMAL since we've held the power for so long and so tightly. Â Which means as long as anyone else is not getting the same, at all times? Â They're the ones being discriminated against.
The fact that any action against white people is seen as 'rare' really just highlights the point, especially given recent events.
2) This is called rape and it's wrong across the board and really shouldn't be part of the discussion? Â Unless you want to get into the actual numbers about sexual violence in which case it's overwhelmingly against women and especially other groups like trans in terms of victims to population size. Â White males get hurt, yes. Â White males are not leading the race because they're not the overwhelming target. Â If you want to dig a little deeper the idea that a man can't get raped pulls from the hyper macho institutions we've built up in there. Â We're hurting ourselves with the definitions we've helped define.
3) I think the points raised in 1 and 2 address this as well. Â Hell. Â I'm hard pressed to think of a "Gender motivated" attack against men. Â It demonstrates a point of just how much power Men have. Â We find the idea of there being a group or any institution that would target us for violence to be...laughable. Â It isn't there.
The point is, that all of these are discriminatory attacks. To state that you cannot discriminate against them is patently false. It may not be institutionalised, but it doesn't mean that it cannot happen.
I have seen friends been jeered at and yelled at for attempting to strike up a conversation with a group of women. His motives weren't sexual, nor did he approach in an intimidating manner. He simply wanted to make some new friends.
Also, as was stated before, Discriminatory doesn't mean violent. nether does attack.
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