(07-20-2015, 02:45 PM)Tumensuns Wrote: That'd be assuming I know said hamburger, before they suddenly were a salad.
Now, if a salad walked up to me and said "hey at one point I was a hamburger", I'm probably going to think they're crazy.
Which ICly, I have done in the past to people who do this, and then they get mad at me OOCly because I'm not forcing my character to accept the absurd notion that this bowl of green lettuce and red tomatoes was once a juicy meat patty between two toasty buns.
(07-20-2015, 02:57 PM)Lilia Lia Wrote:Fair points all. I just like being clear on everything 'cause I'm equal parts curious, nosy and semantic. :B(07-20-2015, 02:27 PM)Shoshopu Wrote: Some of them you might not even know that's how they got to where they are, so does that really affect you at all? Or do you only care about Fantasia usage when it's affected your personal circle?
I should mention that a lot of players treat their IC Fantasia as a significant part of their character's history. You don't find out about it right away but as you get to know them they come out with it, or a friend of theirs casually says something like "that was back when he was a Lalafell" and all of a sudden you have to respond to this. The reason it's immersion breaking is because your character is being asked to accept something that you personally don't think is plausible from a lore perspective. It'd be like if someone tried to pretend that the Calamity never happened, or wanted to tell you that they were the Warrior of Light, or that they are the blood descendent of Bahamut.Â
It's annoying for the same reason that Godmodding is annoying. A person is taking their RP out of the territory of "My character says or does this," and into the territory of "I am telling you that this is how the world works." All of a sudden you can't really RP with each other because you're both playing by different rules. If you tell me that your character can fly by flapping his arms really fast, and my character expresses disbelief, and then you proceed to emote your character flying around the sky with the greatest of ease, then I think I'm justified in finding that obnoxious. My character, however, would find it fascinating and would tell everyone she knew about it. I don't really want to have to do this, so I have to break character and treat it as mundane or uninteresting in order to continue to RP with that person about things other than their magical flying power.
(07-20-2015, 02:44 PM)Graeham Wrote: I'm a little confused as to what, exactly, is actually being discussed at this point. It shouldn't be terribly difficult for people to accept that when someone chooses to embrace a particularly controversial storytelling device then not everybody is going to smile and accept it readily.To clear up your confusion, I was just asking Tumensuns for more clarification on what his opinion was because it was unclear at first. I didn't think there was anything wrong with that, and I sure didn't mean to come off as trying to make Tumensuns accept that other people do it.
Nobody is demanding that people stop doing it. They're simply explaining why they, themselves, don't really have any interest in going along with it.
I don't think there's much to be accomplished from reading too deeply into analogies especially when different people can walk away with completely different interpretations.