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RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed |
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08-28-2015, 04:22 AM
(08-28-2015, 03:59 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: Actually, until recently, WoW did the same thing.  And there were discussions - both on the part of players and on the part of devs - about the concern that new players might get overwhelmed with how many levels they have to get through.

But, the thing is, you can get from 1-90 in a matter of hours with heirlooms, and in maybe one or two days at most, and 90-100 is like, 16 hours.  It can take a new player weeks, if not longer, to level to 50 in FFXIV.

I'm gonna go ahead and flat out call BS that it would take a brand new player, with no contacts to feed them equipment, push them through dungeons, etc, two days to level from 1 to 90, even if we assume by 2 days you mean 48 hours /played and not the even more absurd literal 2 real world days consisting of probably two 3-5 hour play sessions.

FFXIV on the other hand feeds you all the equipment you need as you level up through the MSQ, you don't really need anyone to feed you anything anyway. And, as I mentioned previously, yes, it's taken me about a month to get V'alka to 47, while working on 3 alts, and also roleplaying most nights when I've been on. 

In an apples to apples comparison, brand new player in both games, would it take someone longer to get from 1-50 (with full pre-HQ MSQ completion) than it would take someone to get from 1-90 in WoW? I don't really care enough to speculate. But let's say for the sake of argument that it would.

Well, WoW's also a much older game with downright ugly graphics and uninspired audio. They've completely redone the original world of their game as of the Cataclysm expansion due to recognizing the growing obsolescence of that level range in their gameplay, and since then have enabled players to instantly become 90 for the same reason - because the content is downright ancient at this point. 

For all practical intents and purposes, FFXIV is a year old. None of the pre-HW content could be described as ancient or irrelevant from that regard. Since we're comparing to WoW, it was released November 2004. Cataclysm was released December 2010... SIX YEARS later. So, six years later, the devs decided "there's enough stuff later on in the game that players will want to do that we should ease their journey to getting to that stuff, let's revamp the old world and make that a smoother and faster process". They didn't do it when they released Burning Crusade, their first expansion, in January 2007 - a little over two years later (still twice as long as FFXIV has existed for practical purposes). 

tl;dr - it's pretty premature to consider the pre-HW content to be outdated and obsolete for players to play through. I'm a new player saying that. I don't feel burdened by this content at all.

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4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Seriphyn - 08-23-2015, 06:30 PM
RE: 4.0 will not continue 3.0 to be completed - by Steel Wolf - 08-23-2015, 06:36 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Oli! - 08-24-2015, 01:17 PM
RE: 4.0 will not continue 3.0 to be completed - by Unnamed Mercenary - 08-23-2015, 06:40 PM
RE: 4.0 will not continue 3.0 to be completed - by Chris Ganale - 08-23-2015, 06:41 PM
RE: 4.0 will not continue 3.0 to be completed - by Virella - 08-23-2015, 06:50 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Flickering Ember - 08-23-2015, 08:20 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by LiadansWhisper - 08-23-2015, 11:48 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Flickering Ember - 08-24-2015, 12:16 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Virella - 08-24-2015, 12:04 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Telluride - 08-24-2015, 12:32 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Gegenji - 08-24-2015, 12:38 PM
RE: 4.0 will not continue 3.0 to be completed - by Blue - 08-23-2015, 06:52 PM
RE: 4.0 will not continue 3.0 to be completed - by Sounsyy - 08-23-2015, 07:11 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Edda - 08-23-2015, 07:27 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Harmonixer - 08-23-2015, 07:34 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Blue - 08-23-2015, 07:35 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Aduu Avagnar - 08-23-2015, 08:13 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by SM Nick - 08-23-2015, 08:43 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by LiadansWhisper - 08-23-2015, 10:24 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Kellach Woods - 08-23-2015, 11:25 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Unnamed Mercenary - 08-23-2015, 11:39 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Geldnar Hothbane - 08-23-2015, 11:53 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by LiadansWhisper - 08-23-2015, 11:55 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Sylentmana - 08-24-2015, 09:28 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Gegenji - 08-24-2015, 09:32 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Telluride - 08-24-2015, 11:12 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Ignacius - 08-24-2015, 11:54 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Kage - 08-24-2015, 12:23 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Ignacius - 08-24-2015, 12:31 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by V'aleera - 08-24-2015, 12:37 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Unnamed Mercenary - 08-24-2015, 12:43 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Ignacius - 08-24-2015, 12:52 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Flickering Ember - 08-24-2015, 12:56 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Kellach Woods - 08-24-2015, 02:27 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by LiadansWhisper - 08-24-2015, 11:35 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Cato - 08-24-2015, 12:44 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Viola - 08-24-2015, 01:11 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Caspar - 08-24-2015, 01:20 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Ashe - 08-24-2015, 04:00 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Addison - 08-24-2015, 07:00 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Ashe - 08-24-2015, 07:25 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Unnamed Mercenary - 08-24-2015, 07:42 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Addison - 08-24-2015, 08:11 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by LiadansWhisper - 08-24-2015, 11:37 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Oli! - 08-25-2015, 12:45 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Coatleque - 08-27-2015, 10:21 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Oli! - 08-27-2015, 11:08 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Marisa - 08-24-2015, 04:01 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Aduu Avagnar - 08-24-2015, 10:17 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Flickering Ember - 08-25-2015, 12:31 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Warren Castille - 08-27-2015, 10:12 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Aaron - 08-27-2015, 10:47 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Blue - 08-27-2015, 11:18 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by LiadansWhisper - 08-27-2015, 11:34 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Sounsyy - 08-27-2015, 10:48 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Kellach Woods - 08-28-2015, 12:29 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Flashhelix - 08-28-2015, 12:31 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Kellach Woods - 08-28-2015, 12:33 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by LiadansWhisper - 08-28-2015, 12:37 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Kellach Woods - 08-28-2015, 01:23 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Flashhelix - 08-28-2015, 01:10 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Edda - 08-28-2015, 01:44 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Kellach Woods - 08-28-2015, 01:57 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Vallerin Hortimont - 08-28-2015, 02:10 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Lydia Lightfoot - 08-27-2015, 11:58 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Glacirus - 08-28-2015, 12:46 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Vallerin Hortimont - 08-28-2015, 01:47 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Verad - 08-28-2015, 02:11 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by LiadansWhisper - 08-28-2015, 02:20 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Aaron - 08-28-2015, 06:51 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Caspar - 08-28-2015, 02:27 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Oli! - 08-28-2015, 02:36 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by LiadansWhisper - 08-28-2015, 02:40 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by I'nhalki - 08-28-2015, 02:34 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by V'aleera - 08-28-2015, 02:47 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by LiadansWhisper - 08-28-2015, 02:54 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Lydia Lightfoot - 08-28-2015, 03:03 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by LiadansWhisper - 08-28-2015, 03:59 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Lydia Lightfoot - 08-28-2015, 04:22 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by LiadansWhisper - 08-28-2015, 04:37 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by I'nhalki - 08-28-2015, 03:01 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by V'aleera - 08-28-2015, 03:03 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Oli! - 08-28-2015, 03:08 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Unnamed Mercenary - 08-28-2015, 03:13 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by V'aleera - 08-28-2015, 03:12 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Oli! - 08-28-2015, 03:14 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by mongi291 - 08-28-2015, 03:14 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Lydia Lightfoot - 08-28-2015, 03:56 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Blue - 08-28-2015, 04:47 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Lydia Lightfoot - 08-28-2015, 05:47 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Oli! - 08-28-2015, 10:22 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Warren Castille - 08-28-2015, 10:31 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Oli! - 08-28-2015, 10:33 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Warren Castille - 08-28-2015, 07:16 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Warren Castille - 08-28-2015, 10:56 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Oli! - 08-28-2015, 11:13 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Flickering Ember - 08-28-2015, 11:18 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Warren Castille - 08-28-2015, 11:20 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Telluride - 08-28-2015, 11:34 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Warren Castille - 08-28-2015, 11:36 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Telluride - 08-28-2015, 11:49 AM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Syf - 08-28-2015, 12:06 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Warren Castille - 08-28-2015, 12:11 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Saravahn - 08-28-2015, 01:03 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Oli! - 08-28-2015, 01:09 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Caspar - 08-28-2015, 01:08 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by V'aleera - 08-28-2015, 04:54 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Kage - 08-28-2015, 05:25 PM
RE: 4.0 will not require 3.0 to be completed - by Telluride - 08-28-2015, 05:31 PM

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