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Sounsyy · **08-31-2015, 11:42 PM**

(08-31-2015, 05:31 PM)Ashe Wrote: I play by the rule that if you haven't seen it in the MSQ or in the towns around you, it probably doesn't exist...There should be no miqo'te in Ishgard as Ishgardian citizens. Like...period. There are no non-outside people in Ishgard who are Miqo'te. At all.

Um. There's a lot of things that exist in the game world that you don't see but are there. Like schools in Ul'dah or a library in Stillglade Fane. Or the fact that there's a Shepard's Guild in old Falcon's Nest.

There are Ishgardian Miqo'te...

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Even outside of Ishgard there are Miqo'te like Q'yantaa and O'bhen Tia, who are hunters in Dravania. There's L'khonebb, a Garlond Ironworks engineer and pilot operating in Ishgard. Mujih Mewrilah, a Gridanian native, infiltrates Ishgard using several of her acquaintances. No one seems to bat an eye at her presence.

Now this is the logic I can't follow... Elezen and Hyur are undoubtedly the two most populous races in Ishgard. No one is questioning that. But the peace between their races only occurred within the last 500 years in Gelmorra. There's a reason the Gelmorran flag is of twin serpents (Elezen and Hyur) encircling a Lotus (symbol of peace).

So within the last 500 years, Hyur were allowed to assimilate into Ishgardian society, achieve some small manner of prestige, become knights and dragoons - BUT you believe that Miqo'te would be outright rejected from Ishgard? Miqo'te have been living in Dravania, Sharlayan, the Black Shroud, Gyr Abania, and in Coerthas itself for easily a thousand years and have had no stated history of violence against the Ishgardian Elezen, but in all this time they wouldn't be accepted into Ishgardian society, despite surrounding the region on all sides? What then keeps Roegadyn out of Ishgard? Dzemael seems to have a few Roegadyns hanging about in 1.0 and 2.0.

(08-31-2015, 11:01 PM)Flynt Knoltros Wrote: I believe the Roe chef in Costa is a native of Ishgard if I'm not mistaken, have to recheck though. /randomroefactsIthinkIknow

Dyrstweitz Wrote:Sometimes I question if opening the Flying Shark was the right decision. But if I wasn't bowing and scraping to some pretentious Ul'dahn mechant, I reckon I'd be doing the same to Count Dzemael. That may have suited my father and grandfather, but I've aspirations for a better life.

EDIT: Eir beat me to it.

I literally do not see why sometime during all of Ishgard's long existence a Miqo'te family could not have moved into the city-state, killed a dragon, become a citizen, knight, retainer, or whatever. There's nothing barring them from being in the city any more than there is barring Hyur. No one's saying Miqo'te have to be in huge population (lore says they're supposed to be incredibly rare race anyways). And no one's saying there should be Miqo'te nobles or dragoons everywhere. But to outright be incredulous to their existence? There's no reason to be. And don't say xenophobia cuz they've got a bloody Garlean as their second in command of the Temple Knights and Dzemael has several generations of Sea Wolves at their service. Meanwhile, Fortemps hires all manner of foreigners:

House Fortemps Steward Wrote:As for those sworn to House Fortemps... In addition to the knights, squires, and infantry, more than a hundred craftsmen, retainers, and other servants possessed of notable skill are pledged to our service. Given our strong position, one might expect us to have no truck with foreign merchants and sellswords. However, nothing could be further from the truth. I should think that my lord the count was quite clear on this point, but it was our hope that you and your allies would, by your deeds, help us to convince the other High Houses of the wisdom of opening the Gates of Judgement to all - among other things.

Do you NEED to have Ratatoskr's blood in your veins to be a Dragoon? ABSOLUTELY NOT. You just need to kill a dang dragon. Go to the Convictory and you'll find all manner of folk out there trying to do just that - noble, lowborn, foreigner, and sellsword alike. Do you need Ratatoskr's blood to perform super crazy Azure Dragoon-esque aether stunts? IDK. But you've got Hyuran dragoons and if they can interbreed with Elezen I don't see why a Miqo'te couldn't in twice the number of years.

These race exclusions are ridiculous y'all. Every race exists in every city-state and if you don't believe me I can show you canon examples. If you think certain examples don't count just because the source came from 1.0 you best check yourself cuz like 60% of the lore we know about this world comes from 1.0 and most of the new info they add was just recycled from old 1.0 NPC chat.

/endrant.

Bonus: Have a Far Eastern Miqo'te.

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