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RE: Creating a Dragoon... |
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09-01-2015, 02:05 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2015, 02:21 AM by Zelmanov.)
I make a disclaimer that some of these descriptions are tinted with a bit of my own experiences and I tried my best to demarcate exactly where fact end and my opinions begin


Ishgardian Lifespan: It is brutishly short, especially for military it seems. A dragon in the MSQ straight up taunts you in about it. Essentially it boils down to "once you hit 30 years old its downhill for you and us dragons just get stronger".  Life has only gotten harsher with the 5 years of winter stretching resources thin. Starvation and cold claim lives just as often as dragons do. The only ones that see old age are the nobility that don't step foot outside Ishgard or the grizzled veterans that are now too old to fight and are more liability than resource, as shown by 2 retired dragoons(Alberic and Heustienne's father) and an injured Elezen in the barracks.

If you plan to make a Dragoon (drachen armor and leaps), I would argue that it'd be much like a tennis player, a very TINY window of physical prowess at its peak, these guys are both seal team and suicide squad and the plots involving them seem to reflect that, you find dragoon squads dead or wiped out often to show that this particular dragon means business (See "Worf Effect")


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My own view on DRG LifespanTHIS PART IS MY OWN INTERPRETATION


Can also think of it like (and I know people hate this series) the army in Attack on Titan, those that can cut it to be leapy stabby dragoons start young, probably die as soon as they are sent out and those that do survive past their initial years are super deadly until they reach a moment of overconfidence or weakness by age and die.


Cliffnotes for High Houses:

Durendaire : Most powerful barring Dzemael, their crest is the rook for a reason and that reason is that they are the foremost fort builders and have gotten much favor and riches from it. The cool kids club essentially. In the MSQ they are known for being barriers (trying to get that guys trust in whitebrim) or antagonists (Machinist story line)

Haillernarte: While they have far reaching dominion over skyfire locks and the camps in the sea of clouds and the skyfire manufactory, they are the weakest currently. They seem to be low on man power and wealth and is why Stephanivien turns to the firearm to be the great equalizer in the Dragonsong war. Lot of secondary characters of neutral to good in the MSQ come from here if only for their associations with Fortemps.

Fortemps: The most "progressive" of the 4 if only for its eager acceptance of aid from adventurers and outsiders. Most of our MSQ good guys come from here.

Dzemael: powerful, have control of caves and has led to OOC confusion and IC rumors of them being duskwight. The hairdresser in game is an heir to Dzemael and is a duskwight. Essentially hufflepuff for their non impact in the MSQ so far.


Minor Noble Houses:

Much like medieval society, it appears that a baseborn (peasants, non nobles, 5th or 6th or nth born nobles so far down the line that they are jilted of succession) can find upwards mobility through 2 means: Clergy or Military. 

St. Reymanaud Cathedral takes in students of all sorts, and even if highborns may turn their noses up at the more common students, they are accepted into the clergy and nothing states that they cannot become inquisitors or the like.

Military is basically "Kill a dragon, get honor". Death by Dragon is already honorable enough (death by anything else isn't) but getting a true dragon kill confers a title and consideration of merit. Manner of kill doesn't seem to matter for there is a quest where a cannoneer was giddy when he shoots one out of the sky and asks you to investigate for him, saying that he could become a temple knight with this. 

Much like medieval times, good service can confer promotion to knighthood or opportunities.

It is easy to claim to be a minor noble house and most noble houses, if not all, are sworn to one of the 4 high houses. Whether there are Hyur minor noble houses is up to debate and good luck trying to justify any OTHER race as a minor house without proper lore back up and back story. Au Ra nobility in Ishgard is impossible, given their recent migration and the fact that ISHGARD THOUGHT THEY WERE GODS DAMN DRAGON PEOPLE AND KILLED THEM ON SIGHT. 



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Hyur In IshgardHyur: 

the Gelmorah pact was signed 500 years after Ishgard's founding, before then, Hyur and Elezen fought each other BITTERLY. As a result you can see that whenever you see a Hyur, they tend to be base born. There are very well dressed Hyur in the pillars as well so upward mobility may be a fight, but possible.



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Long Version of Dragoon LoreDragoons:

As stated before,there are 2 types. There is the "killed a dragon" sort which is a title, which gives an idea of how dismal of a war effort it is, either that or nobility love to reserve the kill for themselves (have their archers shoot a dragon down and the noble kills a wounded, dying beast, much like hunts of yore in our world) there is evidence for that theory with the Convictory questline. You'll find some plain armored dragoons(look like regular knights) in the 2.0 questline.

Then you have the Dragoon, these are the ones that get the Drachen Mail quenched in Dragon Blood, can do crazy leaps and acrobatics, basically the cool one we all wanna play.

There is the Azure Dragoon, which you cannot be because there is usually only one per generation and currently there are 2 only because the Warrior of Light main character is one. You are neither the WOL or Estinien, claim to be either and your RP pool shrinks. They get an Eye of Nidhogg and it basically supercharges their powers to 11.5.

Then there are the others. A lot of the lore is shrouded in mystery other than that they are trained to kill dragons and do it well (enough). There seems to be a great deal of autonomy in their actions and a tolerance for...eccentricities (The Spiked butt comes to mind, also Estinien going totally AWOL, custom armor colors or weapons). Dragoons are capable of making leaps where they may not exactly survive the subsequent landing(As shown by Heustienne jumping on a dragon's back and then unable to get off as the dragon flew off in retreat)

As for "dragon magicks" I would argue that Geirskogul and Blood of the Dragon are not abilities usable by dragoons. These abilities are made up by the Warrior of Light on the spot and the WOL is an Azure Dragoon and thus can tap into powers beyond that of a regular Dragoon. Dragonfire dive, was supposed to be the pinnacle and exclusive to Azure Dragoons according to the quest lore and to me makes sense that since the 50 quest concluded with you at the pinnacle, that you would have to then free form your growth in power from there. However there is no lore beyond "Your inner dragon stirs" so who knows. I just play conservatively.


Dragoons with a capital D can jump, the Drachen armor and Dragoon Lance (Gaebolg) are standard issue and are both equipment and a symbol of their prestige, If you wish to be a Dragoon in RP, best to get those items as a base. Dragoons are also apolitical typically as mentioned by Estinien. They don't care about the squabbles and power-games of nobility, they just kill dragons. That is not to say you cannot be a more politically minded Dragoon.



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Tips for Roleplaying as a Dragoon Remember, you are playing a military position in an active war. You need good reason to be outside of Coerthas or currently not killing something dead. It is not as hard as you think when you realize that Dragoons have a good deal of autonomy. Heustienne didn't get assigned to kill Graoully, she chose to chase him, she also chose to get in touch with you, an outsider, for better training. And, for example, my character,  Orrin, is currently in Gridania pursuing leads to retrieve a Dravanian artifact of power too deadly to just leave behind. 

You probably have more mobility and freedom as a Dragoon the longer you've been one.

I feel like age is also a big factor. Think of it like a sliding scale where the older you elect your character to be, the more experienced and grizzled they can be but also the more vulnerable and less spry. Play upon the lament of wishing to have had the experience you do now but with the body you had 8-10 years ago before you stupidly went blind in one eye or lost a finger or what have you. Go young and you can have the power and vigor of youth, the drive and zeal but lack the finesse or the decision making skills of your more experienced peers.

And remember, while Dragoon is one of the few "jobs" where it actually is an occupation, a job, do not let it consume your character in its entirety, remember why he fights and especially nowadays with the conclusion of 3.0, put into perspective just how righteous your job may actually be
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Creating a Dragoon... - by Riven - 08-31-2015, 09:29 AM
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RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 08-31-2015, 02:10 PM
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