(03-23-2013, 12:46 PM)Lilszee Wrote:(03-22-2013, 07:08 PM)Deirdre (Not to derail the thread...but-) Wrote: You are equating player characters more with regular citizens, but the extreme percentage of us are playing characters as 'adventurers' who are regarded as the lowest class and expendable, almost akin to a slave. So that's not a great starting point, even with wealth, family or legacy behind you.
Some people are certainly going to be normal citizens within RP, but I also extensively mentioned where they weren't. And I think it's incredibly weird you'd try to equate adventurers with slave. Like, that's not only bizarrely wrong, that's pretty offensive on top of it.
Slaves are people without power, agency, who don't receive pay, and more importantly, who are horribly oppressed. Equating adventurers -- people who slay monsters, do odd jobs, and otherwise act as mercenaries -- to slaves is just... incomprehensible tbh.
If you re-read my post, I'm not making specifics. Of course there are going to be characters who are not adventurers. But, the fact is, I've roleplayed all through 1.0 and I know a good portion of the RPers and their characters. ALMOST all of them are adventurers.
My example of slave v adventurers is again, a broad example, and not to equate on specifics. It came from the very fact that adventurers are expendable, and the game NPC's will even tell you that. There are some who actually sneer at you because you are an adventurer.
I'm equating a slaves social position, at the bottom of the food chain and easily replaceable as well as doing all the dirty work, as alike an adventurer.
As Aysun pointed out yeah, there is the total ability to move up the food chain and change the view of the people saying those things.
As an aside to your point about Grand Companies, they DO NOT lodge or feed their adventurers, and would balk at the idea. The only place that does this, which is not really affiliated with the Grand Companies, is the Adventurers Guild. Even then, you have to work really hard before getting access to a room with merely a bed, and they defiantly will not feed you.
Eorzean culture, while having small pieces of our own (obviously), is it's own. We're using terms to be able to relate to it, and broaden our ideas of social status, which exists in Hydaelyn. While you can compare certain things like machinery and what-not to per-industrial eras, it's not the same. Their industrial stages could have gone completely different from ours (and did because well, we didn't come across giant ancient technology and use it to our advantage).
I corrected you because of the blatantly obvious correct spelling all over the website. I'm not trying to get in specifics here, but I personally like my Eorzean related words spelled correctly.
In agreeance with Kylin, and as I was trying to get to all along, semantics. Vote in the poll or don't, but don't to come in here saying things about Eorzean culture that aren't really correct.
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