• Login
  • Register
Hello There, Guest!

Username:

Password:

Remember me

Lost PW Lost Password?

Advanced Search
  • Rules
  • Staff
  • Wiki
  • Free Companies
  • Linkshells
  • Calendar
  • Chat
  • Gallery
  • Donate
home Hydaelyn Role-Players → Community → RP Discussion v
« Previous 1 … 19 20 21 22 23 … 108 Next »
→

If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character?


RPC has moved! These pages have been kept for historical purposes

Please be sure to visit https://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/ directly for the new page.

If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character?
Threaded Mode | Linear Mode
Thread Closed

Unnamed Mercenaryv
Unnamed Mercenary
Find all posts by this user
Grumpy Garlean

Offline
Posts:3,760
Joined:Apr 2014
Linkshell:A Variety
Server:Balmung
Reputation: 517 Timezone:UTC-8
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? |
#61
09-14-2015, 12:12 PM
Show Content
Really big block of quoted text
(09-14-2015, 09:47 AM)LadyRochester Wrote:
(09-11-2015, 02:33 PM)Verad Wrote: This thread exists because RPers are spiteful, contrarian little shits who don't like being told what to do - but only if they're told to view a character positively.

There is no quibbling over "ugly." There is no quibbling over other vague descriptors that imply other informed traits like "sickly" or "plain." It is only when a player dares suggest a character is viewed in a positive fashion that players get their hackles up and start fleeing to the warm, inviting confines of subjectivity.

This is the wit thread, redux.

Except that it's not. Mental faculties are far less open to subjectivity than beauty. However, I am not going to argue about intelligence again, this is not the thread for it.

And yes, I do mean "ugly" characters as well. I saw a roleplayer once say their character was "ugly"without giving much context as to why, in fact, in game, they looked better looking than average. When I sent them a /tell asking why they considered their character "ugly", they basically responded "he has tiny eyes and a biggish nose."

Features that to me, and to people in general, are not enough to make a character "ugly". I am not treating a character as if they were unattractive when they are hardly described as such, and all you get is an "He's ugly" description.

Claiming subjectivity regarding positive traits is the only one that is truly problematic is frankly idiotic. Not every roleplayer that points this out is a bitter little shit.

Same thing goes for "good" and "evil" characters. I had roleplayers tell me their characters are incredibly evil when their actions are considered mildly questionable at best. Then get annoyed if my character doesn't act terrorized/intimidated by them. Is "evil" a positive trait now?

I speak of lazy description when people force their views upon others without truly baking up their claims. When they expect special treatment because their characters are "ugly" or "beautiful" without backing it up. If something is subjective, regardless of it being positive or negative, a roelplayer should not expect others to bend backwards to cater to their beliefs. It's stupidly inconsiderate and lazy.

That's like me saying "Sasha Rochester is the ugliest, bitchiest, stupidest person in Eorzea! She also smells!" I can say it all I want, but if I gent angry when other roleplyers don't agree, I'm probably a bloody idiot. After all, roleplay is more about "show, don't tell." and being so vague with description makes your roleplay seem flat and boring.

(09-14-2015, 10:11 AM)LadyRochester Wrote: I'm a fairly new roleplayer myself, and I am far from perfect. However, my point stands, whether it is used with raw language or more "pretty" words. Expecting others to cater to you IS inconsiderate and lazy. This is not only how roleplay works, but also how life works. If you're hardly putting forth any effort, you shouldn't expect others to fall to their knees for you. 

The reality is, if there is nos substance to your character, there will be no substance to your roleplay. I can't put it in nicer terms than this. When I first started in RP, I made a lot of Rookie mistakes I wish people had poined out to me instead of having to sit down and have to figure it out myself, to this day, I cringe at some of the posts I made.

Mind you, I started RPing little over a year ago. Granted, some people are not as open to criticism, and I do apologize for the language I used, my intention was not to harm or discourage other roleplayers from experimenting with styles. Ultimately, it's their choice as to how they roleplay.

Here's my view on this. This thread is basically asking the exact same thing as the wit thread. It ultimately comes down to "can a person RP something, whether a trait or skill, without actually validating it through RP?" And as many of the people in the last thread said and how many of the people in this thread have said, it depends.

It depends on the person RPing. It depends on the people they are RPing with. It depends on how all of those people view RP and judge what they feel is "good" RP. The only wrong way is to not try or to have no imagination. A story and only go so far if the characters are lacking, and a character can only go so far if their story is lacking. The larger a list of do's and don'ts becomes, the more intimidating and difficult it is to follow. Ultimately, it just ends up with people trying so hard to fit into the "community guidelines" that they stop writing characters for themselves. And then it becomes unfun.

How does one RP that their character is smart, beautiful, able to drive a car, ride a Chocobo, fight, use magic, or do whatever else they want to do? They try to write it to the best of their ability. For some people, that might actually be writing something like "my character is pretty," or "my character is ugly," or "my character is really smart, but ugly". If they think that's sufficient to describe the character, and the people they RP with are content with it, there really isn't much of a problem. If that same person later goes "how can I better show these aspects of my character," then it's a perfect time to sit down and think about the character's intelligence and how it's show, about what the character looks like and how that can be written and developed upon. The game only allows a characters to look a certain way.

Franz'sWiki | Rostnais (WIP)| IC-ish/OOC Tumblr | RPC Chat
RPC Staff Team | Staff Contact and Feedback/Requests/Support

« Next Oldest | Next Newest »
Thread Closed

Messages In This Thread
If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by LadyRochester - 09-11-2015, 08:27 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Warren Castille - 09-11-2015, 08:31 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by LadyRochester - 09-11-2015, 08:39 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Sylentmana - 09-11-2015, 08:43 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by LadyRochester - 09-11-2015, 08:48 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Sylentmana - 09-11-2015, 08:54 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by LadyRochester - 09-11-2015, 08:57 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Sylentmana - 09-11-2015, 09:07 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by LadyRochester - 09-11-2015, 09:12 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Sylentmana - 09-11-2015, 10:47 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Gegenji - 09-11-2015, 09:03 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by mongi291 - 09-11-2015, 08:51 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by LadyRochester - 09-11-2015, 08:55 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Berrod Armstrong - 09-11-2015, 09:04 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by LadyRochester - 09-11-2015, 09:09 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by WhiteLycanXII - 09-11-2015, 09:09 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Nebbs - 09-11-2015, 09:22 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Mia Moui - 09-11-2015, 09:48 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Warren Castille - 09-11-2015, 10:09 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Aya - 09-11-2015, 10:13 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Warren Castille - 09-11-2015, 10:17 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Ignacius - 09-11-2015, 10:19 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Aaron - 09-11-2015, 10:27 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Kaiz - 09-11-2015, 10:52 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Zhavi - 09-11-2015, 02:00 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Aya - 09-11-2015, 02:15 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by ZacharyVolfire - 09-11-2015, 02:06 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by -no longer matters- - 09-11-2015, 02:29 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Verad - 09-11-2015, 02:33 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by McBeefâ„¢ - 09-11-2015, 02:39 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Aya - 09-11-2015, 02:39 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Aaron - 09-11-2015, 02:42 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Zhavi - 09-11-2015, 02:45 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by LadyRochester - 09-14-2015, 09:47 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Berrod Armstrong - 09-14-2015, 10:00 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by LadyRochester - 09-14-2015, 10:11 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 09-14-2015, 12:12 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Verad - 09-14-2015, 12:58 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by LadyRochester - 09-14-2015, 02:37 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Edda - 09-14-2015, 09:18 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Caspar - 09-15-2015, 01:21 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Verad - 09-15-2015, 03:18 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Gabineaux - 09-14-2015, 08:53 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Warren Castille - 09-11-2015, 02:47 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by LiadansWhisper - 09-11-2015, 03:31 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by McBeefâ„¢ - 09-11-2015, 03:32 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by LiadansWhisper - 09-11-2015, 03:34 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Nirri - 09-11-2015, 03:33 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Flickering Ember - 09-11-2015, 04:11 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Diskwrite - 09-11-2015, 04:15 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Jana - 09-11-2015, 07:16 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by LiadansWhisper - 09-11-2015, 07:22 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Jana - 09-12-2015, 01:14 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Seriphyn - 09-11-2015, 07:31 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by McBeefâ„¢ - 09-11-2015, 07:32 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Ryanti - 09-11-2015, 09:31 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Caspar - 09-12-2015, 05:35 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Kellach Woods - 09-13-2015, 07:59 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Eses Fafa - 09-13-2015, 09:21 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Paradox - 09-13-2015, 10:25 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Martiallais - 09-13-2015, 03:33 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Desitjant - 09-13-2015, 04:05 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Dis - 09-13-2015, 05:09 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Leanne - 09-13-2015, 08:50 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by ImmoralAria - 09-14-2015, 01:41 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Alothia - 09-14-2015, 10:04 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Hammersmith - 09-14-2015, 10:48 AM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Vallerin Hortimont - 09-14-2015, 02:09 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Ignacius - 09-14-2015, 03:15 PM
RE: If beauty is subjective, who defines the beauty of your character? - by Melkire - 09-18-2015, 10:01 PM

  • View a Printable Version
  • Send this Thread to a Friend
  • Subscribe to this thread


Users browsing this thread: 3 Guest(s)
Index | Return to Top | Lite (Archive) Mode | RSS Syndication | Current time: 05-21-2025, 01:47 PM


Final Fantasy XIV images/content © Square-Enix, forum content © RPC.
The RPC is not affiliated with Square-Enix or any of its subsidiaries.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2025 MyBB Group.
Designed by Adrian/Reksio, modified by Kylin@RPC