My understanding is that events went, roughly, in the following order:
-- Ascians give the Allags the means of capturing and killing Bahamut.
-- Allags kill Bahamut.
-- Ascians then approach Tiamat and instructed her in how to 'resurrect' Bahamut.
-- Tiamat and the dragons of Meracydia 'ressurect' Bahamut... in the form of a Primal.
-- Tiamat realizes that Primal-Bahamut is a Bad Idea... as is summoning -any- Primal.
-- Ascians give the Allags the means of imprisoning Primal-Bahamut for their use. The Allags also imprison Tiamat.
-- Allags eventually die out. Primal-Bahamut is left in Dalamud, Tiamat is still imprisoned.
-- 10,000 years or so pass.
-- Calamity happens.
-- Coil stuff happens.
-- MSQ in Azys Lla happens. Tiamat is still imprisoned. She is offered freedom, but declines it as punishment for being the first to summon Primal-Bahamut.
So, my assumption is that whatever method the Ascians gave to the Allags to kill Dragon-Bahamut, it was something that he could NOT regenerate from (like Middy sort of does) or potentially bide time until he can body snatch (like Niddy does with Estinein). Which probably means that, at the very least, Dragon-Bahamut's eyes were utterly destroyed. Dragon-Bahamut dies, his essence is released back into the aether/lifestream, which paved the way for Primal-Bahamut to be summoned for the first time.
The fact that Tiamat still has her eyes, hints to me that whatever method the Ascians gave the Allags to capture a dragon of Tiamat's caliber is strong enough to so without weakening her (meaning, taking her eyes) first. Which would likely give the Allags ample opportunities to test on Tiamat in horrible ways -- she's got her eyes, the Allags don't have to worry about an experiment killing her. 10,000 years later, she declines the offer of freedom because being bound like that is the worst punishment that can be inflicted on her; even death would be a release.Â
As for why the other dragons didn't hep Dragon-Bahamut... I think that there's the possibility that whatever information and methods the Ascians were sharing with the Allags, was stuff that all dragons were vulnerable to. Maybe after Dragon-Bahamut fell, the rest of the big dragons (minus Tiamat) realized that they couldn't fight. Or maybe Dragon-Bahamut was killed so quickly, thoroughly, and suddenly, the other dragons couldn't react in time to help.
... That's my thoughts, at least.
[[QUICK EDIT: While I have done some Coil, it was far from an enjoyable activity for me and I didn't really retain much from what I did in there. So I'm likely missing some information that I'd have gotten from Coil.]]
-- Ascians give the Allags the means of capturing and killing Bahamut.
-- Allags kill Bahamut.
-- Ascians then approach Tiamat and instructed her in how to 'resurrect' Bahamut.
-- Tiamat and the dragons of Meracydia 'ressurect' Bahamut... in the form of a Primal.
-- Tiamat realizes that Primal-Bahamut is a Bad Idea... as is summoning -any- Primal.
-- Ascians give the Allags the means of imprisoning Primal-Bahamut for their use. The Allags also imprison Tiamat.
-- Allags eventually die out. Primal-Bahamut is left in Dalamud, Tiamat is still imprisoned.
-- 10,000 years or so pass.
-- Calamity happens.
-- Coil stuff happens.
-- MSQ in Azys Lla happens. Tiamat is still imprisoned. She is offered freedom, but declines it as punishment for being the first to summon Primal-Bahamut.
So, my assumption is that whatever method the Ascians gave to the Allags to kill Dragon-Bahamut, it was something that he could NOT regenerate from (like Middy sort of does) or potentially bide time until he can body snatch (like Niddy does with Estinein). Which probably means that, at the very least, Dragon-Bahamut's eyes were utterly destroyed. Dragon-Bahamut dies, his essence is released back into the aether/lifestream, which paved the way for Primal-Bahamut to be summoned for the first time.
The fact that Tiamat still has her eyes, hints to me that whatever method the Ascians gave the Allags to capture a dragon of Tiamat's caliber is strong enough to so without weakening her (meaning, taking her eyes) first. Which would likely give the Allags ample opportunities to test on Tiamat in horrible ways -- she's got her eyes, the Allags don't have to worry about an experiment killing her. 10,000 years later, she declines the offer of freedom because being bound like that is the worst punishment that can be inflicted on her; even death would be a release.Â
As for why the other dragons didn't hep Dragon-Bahamut... I think that there's the possibility that whatever information and methods the Ascians were sharing with the Allags, was stuff that all dragons were vulnerable to. Maybe after Dragon-Bahamut fell, the rest of the big dragons (minus Tiamat) realized that they couldn't fight. Or maybe Dragon-Bahamut was killed so quickly, thoroughly, and suddenly, the other dragons couldn't react in time to help.
... That's my thoughts, at least.
[[QUICK EDIT: While I have done some Coil, it was far from an enjoyable activity for me and I didn't really retain much from what I did in there. So I'm likely missing some information that I'd have gotten from Coil.]]