(03-08-2016, 06:46 PM)Mavis Wrote: So since my new character is going to dabble in old magics, I have run into a few terminology problems.Â
1. White magic v black magic:
Black mages draw aether from Hydaelyn to fuel their spells, killing the land in the process. White magic draws from the Elementals, however since those are essentially the land around the caster as well, would the effects of excessive use of either art have the same effect on their surroundings?
Also we know from the new Lost City HM that the amdapori managed to use succor not just to heal, but to harm (see Kuribu with her reversed Cure IV and Regen). Given the 1.0 Lore from Thaumaturges, would that mean that Black mages could use their technique to fuel stronger healing spells?
White Magic, or Succor as it is more properly termed, doesn't draw from the Elementals. It draws from ambient aether just like Black Magic.
Black Magic cannot fuel healing spells because that's simply not how their magic works (Sounssy can explain better than I). When the Amdapori corrupted their Succor to use it for harm, that is when they went all wrong. Succor is not designed to harm others. When it is used as such, that is a great abomination and blasphemy.
Quote:1.5 White magic v black magic casts/spells:
Malicious White magic or Succor is possible as we have seen, however how could it best be portrayed? Given that atleast Regen seems to keep it's original look of a blue field, would it be less "flashy" than what a normal Black mage would use, being less destructive, while remaining harmful/lethal?
Corrupted Succor is described as being every bit as destructive as Black Magic.
Quote:2. Elementals.
They -are- nature, as already said in the thread. However me and Sil while discussing this had somewhat different opinions. One way of seeing it was that the Elementals resided in the shroud (talking about the big scary ones), but due to their strength they influence all of nature even far beyond the twelveswood, sort of like the roots of a tree. The other point of view being that the elementals are more decentralised, every tree or rock being a "mini-elemental". Any support on which of those is correct, or if both are wrong?
From what I've seen in game, I would say there is more support for the latter than for the former.
Quote:3. Succor=White magic?
We know that the fae the scholars created were made to use Succor. However, is Succor merely a different term for White magic, or is there more to White magic than simply draining the Elementals for healing (or harming)?
You don't drain Elementals for anything when you use Succor. It draws on ambient aether, NOT the Elementals themselves. In order to use Succor offensively, I believe you'd need to somehow rediscover the lost techniques of the Amdapori, but then you'd run into the issue of angry Elementals, Padjal, and Wood Wailers after you anytime you stepped near the Shroud (and you'd have to somehow survive Amdapor City). Plus, you'd probably be a bit insane from how you were perverting something designed to soothe and heal into a tool of destruction.
Succor is the proper term for White Magic.
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