(06-08-2013, 02:50 AM)Luka Paluka Wrote: Yes in FFXIV the races do interact with each other and live in cities together. That doesn't make them the same. The lore is constantly being updated and we are being told and shown by the developers how different the races and their history are, because they're supposed to be different. Miqo'te are not Hyur with tails and cat ears, and changing from a Hyur to a Miqo'te without editing the character/history is acting as though they are.
What? No, it isn't. There's a myriad of societal conditions to consider. An individual, regardless of genetic heritage, immersed entirely in any society will conform to that society. Genes be damned. Horrifying example incoming: Click these words! Do it!
(06-08-2013, 02:50 AM)Luka Paluka Wrote: The thing is, and I said this once already, if someone didn't let me know that their character was always supposed to be a Miqo'te or doesn't warn me that it's happening, when I log in and they're acting all buddy-like with me as if we've known each other for however long we have IC, it's going to cause some confusion. If I'm warned in advance or even told when I begin RPing with someone that they're supposed to be X or Y, then I have no issue with it.
Yeah, they still don't have an obligation to "warn" you of anything. That's a really, really weird hang-up, I'm noticing. You can say that you'd like it as much as you want. And, again, there's nothing wrong with you preferring said method to any other. But to insist that there's any kind of unwritten rule that someone should talk it over with you is just...odd beyond odd.
(06-08-2013, 02:50 AM)Luka Paluka Wrote: Miqo'te males weren't around in 1.0 for whatever reason SE decided. We didn't see any NPCs or PCs as them in 1.0, and presumably there's some (I admit, probably weak) lore reason for such that SE has yet to announce. Retconning to that you were one of the only ones around adventuring during the days of 1.0 feels off in my opinion.
The models weren't done, and there was an attempt to associate the game with XI. There, there's your reason. Anyway, I have a question on this:
Does the retconning bit bug you on it's own? Does it bug you, given that this is not a popular name asking the question? Do the people who were roleplaying as Miqo'te males in 1.0 bug you? Because there were quite a few of them. Just curious.
(06-08-2013, 02:50 AM)Luka Paluka Wrote: If you want to play one of these new race/gender combinations that's great, but why do you feel the need to change your already established character that is linked to many different people's stories? If I was reading a book and one day the character was a Human and in the sequel she's an Elf because the writer decided he wanted her to be an Elf all of a sudden, I'd label that poor writing.
Ok, you know what? No easy way to put this: If you don't want your story effected by outside forces beyond your control, write a book. Don't roleplay. Other people will change your story in ways you didn't expect, because they are not you, and you don't really get to dictate what they do, and do not do. They're not responsible for how neat and clean your experience is.
That being said, this analogy is entirely invalid, as we're not talking about a book, which is static, and has one conscious mind working on it.
(06-08-2013, 02:50 AM)Luka Paluka Wrote: And, slightly off topic but I'll respond, saying "I don't mean to offend you here" followed by something clearly designed to offend someone is pretty shallow.
Edit: English fail. x)
So is insinuating that someone is a "bad writer" with a smothering amount of passive-aggressiveness, then thumbing your nose at an argument that disagrees with your (frankly, strange) idea that roleplaying should be tidy and clean as a novel, and decreeing that it is "shallow."
English as a second (third, whatever) language be damned.
I'd also like to add that your entire post here has been discussed already. Retreading ground already covered serves little more than stirring the pot.
