(06-10-2013, 12:14 AM)Rhostel Wrote: Rhostel is well-spoken and reads well enough to get by, but can't write much more than her own name. I'm honestly shocked that level of literacy isn't more common.
Alts are both superbly literate in all ways.
(06-09-2013, 10:08 PM)Tyonis Wrote: "Speaking Only" doesn't make sense for much of the same reasons above. I guess this situation would be possible for people going through secondary language acquisition, but I highly doubt it.Or, you know, any illiterates among the majority of characters who have Eorzean as their native tongue.
(06-09-2013, 10:08 PM)Tyonis Wrote: "Can read and speak" implies the character cannot Write or Listen. While the inability to Write is understandable, the inability to Listen while still being able to Speak does not make sense unless the person is deaf - even then, it barely makes any sense (the subject would not have any way to associate the word with the proper sound). However, this case would be possible during secondary language acquisition (People learning Japanese in a classroom tend to learn how to Read and Speak before learning how to Listen and Write.)You're over-thinking it, mate. Listening isn't part of the poll at all, so you can't assume any option implies an inability to do so.
This level of literacy was actually quite common among lower classes in history. Being able to read had a lot of practical use, but being able to write didn't matter so much if you didn't have any power.
(06-09-2013, 10:08 PM)Tyonis Wrote: "Can Speak and Write" implies the character cannot perform the two receptive skills needed to perform the these two productive ones, which also does not make sense, unless we were also including secondary language acquisition, even then, this situation is practically impossible.Again, no implication of an inability to listen. But yes, it is pretty much impossible to write without reading.
1) Yes, the Listening skill isn't covered by the poll, so we will automatically assume characters who choose this option can understand Eorzean speech at some level. If this is the case, then yes, "Speaking Only" would be applicable, since this option would now imply the character can Listen with enough fluency to Speak.
2) Once more, if we automatically assume that the characters who pick this option can Listen and understand Eorzean speech at some level, "Can Read and Speak" becomes possible because Speaking is a productive skill born from Listening and Reading is a fundamental, receptive skill. And you are right; this is the common level of literacy among the lower class.
3) We seem to have an agreement on the third issue.
