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(08-16-2016, 01:10 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:(08-16-2016, 12:57 PM)Sounsyy Wrote: Quite literally said nothing about expecting others to play up to your standards. I only said that if you have the know-how, don't be part of the problem by also playing low-effort, even if everyone else in your PUG is.
But now that you mention it, I find it hilarious that the FFXIV community at large considers using 1/3 of your skillset as "Endgame-level" exclusive LOL. Like, WHMs or SCHs haven't had almost all of their DPS abilities by the early lv30s or 40s. Like only endgame level Tanks need to use cooldowns because there are no tank busters in Roulette dungeons?
You do realize that's an absolutely silly comparison, right? You're comparing something that is completely within the domain of the role - tanking CDs being used by a Tank who is there to tank - to something that is outside of a stated role - damage output on the part of a Healer who is there to heal.
I don't see how it's silly. I literally do not have to use CDs in a dungeon to survive. After all, my job is to hold hate, it's the healer's job to keep everyone alive- or so I've been told in this thread. And damaging isn't outside the stated role of a healer, as I expressed in the first post, it's actually 1/3 your role. It's just a part that the community at large has chosen to ignore because of personal preference because it isn't "required" for Expert. You don't not buff people with cards as AST because you're called "Healer" and not "Support."
So, again, I pose: I as a tank main am not "required" to use cooldowns in order to hold hate, nor will enemies flatten me in any dungeon because 1] unless I pull big I won't be taking that much damage, 2] no tank busters, 3] I have a Healer who's doing nothing but healing. And you literally see these tanks all over DF. I've healed them myself. I've raged at the rate at which their HP drops, but it was my job to heal them none-the-less.
Here's what I think the community doesn't understand, or ignores, whichever. No job in FFXIV is strictly bound within the Tank | Healer | Damage holy trinity. Every job, but especially tanks and healers, have abilities which allow them to flow seamlessly into additional roles if played effectively. It has been this way since early 1.0 and continues well into 3.0. When tanks regularly and habitually use Cooldowns and Self-heals in any and all content, it makes the Healer’s job significantly easier. And when a Healer is spending less time and MP cure bombing the Tank to keep them alive, it allows for the Healer to have the option to DPS. When a Healer is able to steadily dps for even a short amount of time, it makes the DPS’s job significantly easier, having less total damage to dish out between the two or four of them. This in turn helps conserve party resources (CDs, TP, MP) by reducing total fight durations. This isn’t just about beating an enrage timer, you can make your 4-man dungeons run much more smoothly as well.
Now, in a random PUG group, you won't always get that helping hand. We all know that. But that doesn't mean you can't still play out your part in that cogwheel. I can choose, as a tank, to pop cooldowns and make my healer's life easier. I can choose to swap into a DPS stance if I'm diligent in my cooldown usage and help damage-dealers. Or, I can just stay in tank stance and do my combo and not lose hate and let the Healer do their job all on their own. That is how the comparison is not silly.