(01-19-2017, 04:29 PM)Redrick Wrote: Ishgardian Elezen: I have heard that their are both Wildwood models and Duskwight models in Ishgard but here's my question. I've heard from several people that both clans are there. But I've read in lore and from others that they've mixed in all the time that Ishgards' been locked up. So is there any actual clear distinction between the two? Or was it just 'in-game model convenience' and lore wise it really doesn't matter which model you use?
Kilieit already gave an excellent explanation of this above. Some of the links I'll post below will still reference "wildwood" and "duskwight" Elezen when referring to Ishgard, so I just wanted to first say this and clear the air that some of my posts are outdated without lore book info. So to recap, the majority of Elezen in Ishgard are Ishgardian Elezen. There are also Wildwood and Duskwights there, but Ishgard does not appear to recognize the Wildwood/Duskwight division, or at the very least, are treated far better in Ishgard than in Gridania. This is evidenced by Duskwight nobles like the Dzemael house having both Wildwood and Duskwight models to represent its children.
If you're curious about Gelmorra, this thread might be helpful.
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(01-19-2017, 04:29 PM)Redrick Wrote: Dark Knight Lore: I am aware of the vigilanty aspect and the like now what I'm curious about is since they are so illusive of a group to use the techniques you would still need a soul stone correct? I'm more so curious of the vigilanty aspect and the possibility of a negative Aura for the time being in the character before eventually maybe tapping into certain skills in roleplay under extreme emotional circumstance? Sort of like the Warrior class until you harness it correctly? I have yet to finish the DRK questline so I'm unsure of the situationality behind all of this. Is there any repercussion for using the DRK abilities?
You do still require a soul stone to harness the darkness within.
Fray Wrote:Not so fast. We need to talk about what’s happening to you─what’s growing within you, before you get carried away. There’s a darkness within us all─nothing dangerous, mind. In fact, it’s quite healthy. But the crystal changes you─gives you the power to channel it. Do it without proper training, however, and…well…it might hurt. Now, bear in mind that while the darkness gives you strength, that strength comes at cost. That is but one sacrifice, though─and justice demands many.
And there can be negative effects for overusing your darkside, namely, like the Warrior, being completely consumed by it.
Fray Wrote:Now, should things turn violent─as I expect they shall─you may need to tap into your darkside to survive. It’s not unlike drawing upon your own aether to weave magic. Fear, pain, rage─that which lies in the deepest depths of our soul makes for a potent fuel. But be warned: burn too much too quickly, and you risk being consumed.
A Dark Knight's darkside is essentially drawing upon strong emotions, and while for most Dark Knights, these are strong negative emotions that boil to the surface when fighting against injustice, etc, they can also be emotions like intense happiness, love, loss. If it's strong enough emotion, it can fuel a Dark Knight's magic.
Almost all lore we have on the Dark Knight can be found below:
-Dark Knight Encyclopedia Eorzea Transcriptions by Kilieit
-Dark Knight Lore Compilation
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(01-19-2017, 04:29 PM)Redrick Wrote: Dragoon lore: I know the lorebook just got done saying there's only 10 or something actual Dragoons with the jumping abilities right? So I've heard you could have a character who trained as a Dragoon but never actually completed training? Aka has some abilities of the Dragoon but not completely or how would that work? Also wasn't Dragoon also just a title given to those that slayed Dragons? So are there, elite dragoons or the knight dragoons and then 'Dragoons' just the slayer of dragons?
This came up earlier today, in fact. In short, yes, the lore book has limited the number of the Order of the Knights Dragoon to about 30-odd members at any given time, but after the events of Heavensward, that number has been reduce to about a dozen, because, well, Ishgard just doesn't really need dragoons anymore. That's not to say that there aren't those who weren't trained as a dragoon, were part of the Order, retired but still alive, or do what the dragoons at the Convictory now do- which is guard and patrol supply lines and caravans.
As for how naming goes, there's three tiers of "dragoon."
1) "dragoon" - Any Knight who can prove to the Holy See they have slain a real dragon.
2) "Knight Dragoon" - An elite knight recruited from this pool of Temple Knights who've slain dragons and trained in the elite aerial acrobatic combat tactics by the Order of the Knights Dragoon.
3) "Azure Dragoon" - One of these elite is chosen once every generation by the Eye of Nidhogg to champion Ishgard in the fight against the Horde. It is no longer possible to become an Azure Dragoon in the traditional sense because of events in Heavensward.
More lore on dragoons, the Order, the Azure Dragoon, dragons, and what the Dragoons of Ishgard have been doing since Heavensward ended can be found below:
-Dragoon Lore Compilation
-Discussion Thread on Becoming Dragoon
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(01-19-2017, 04:29 PM)Redrick Wrote: Thank you again for any help you can give, now I am to find what I can on the Noble houses, Knighting/Soldier training, and Halones religion.
Well, these links should help you!
-Four High House Lore Compilation
-List of Known Lesser Noble Houses
-Ishgardian Lore and Titles of Nobility by Bellworks FC
-Ishgardian High House Relations and Political Assassination Lore
-Azure Dragoon & Order of the Knights Dragoon Lore
-The Heavensward and Temple Knight Lore
-Ishgardian Scholasticate, Conjury, and Thaumaturgy Lore
-Dusk, Stone, Steel, Dawn Vigil Lore
-How Has Ishgard Fed Itself?
-Halonic Funeral Lore
-Eorzean Religion Lore Masterpost (Bit in there about Ishgard and the Enchiridion)
-Eorzean Settlements Lore (Coerthas settlements)
-Complete Sightseeing Lore Compilation (Ishgardian ones start at #68)
