(01-22-2017, 02:59 AM)Kurt S. Wrote: I'm wondering what they refer to as "dialect." Again my question feeds back to my earlier post, and I don't seem to find much clarification on other sources. Would the dialect be as simple as say. How New Yorkers speak English versus say the English speaking English.
Or do they mean dialect in the context of say, Mandarin to Cantonese or Fookien. Or in a more personal setting, Bisaya to Tagalog.
Because the Philippines needs so many dialects they're pretty much indistinguishable to each other. Someone from the northern islands will never understand someone from the southern islands unless they undergo at least a year of study. And yet they're still called "dialects."
The part that I put in bold is what I was going for when I said "dialect". Kind of like how American Southerners have their own slew of accents, expressions, and colloquialisms that Americans from the North may not understand. It's the exact same language, but different rhythm and sayings.
Quote:Also as another observation. I think Caveman talk is quite acceptable, BUT easily rectified. The thing is, and I'm just regaling how our English classes taught English because we didn't know how English, it all depends on how they'd pick up the common tongue.
I mean sentence structure's got Subjects and Predicates, right?
Now if you take away the concept of pronouns or haven't introduced, say the Eorzean variant, to said character yet. Which I believe may happen. You're left with no substitutes but what you can comprehend out of the structure.Â
It'd be rude to say the equivalent of "I" in your language to someone who doesn't already understand it. The idea is that you're probably going to want to be inclusive so everyone understands. Even if it's grating to ears or in this case, making the eyes bleed.
So how's that going to play out?Â
"Kurt think that good!"
Simply because you're limited in your understanding but you still want that idea to come across as complete. Being messy is just a price for that.
Err...
The most I'm able to gather from what I think you're going on about here is that, in short, you just really really want your character to talk weird. Specifically, you want language to be the catalyst for this oddity in their speech. And you think that due to the wide spread of various languages, dialects, and accents there are in real life... that it must obviously be present in the game's world, too.
On a fundamental level, I get that. I really do. But sadly, there just isn't much support for unique languages apart from the common tongue that are currently being used en masse -- with the exception of Xaelan tongue(s). Every race does have their own individual languages, that was never in question. But it's heavily implied that those are outdated and not widely used anymore, outside of a handful of terms. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this.)
Personally, I'm of the opinion that the concept of a character with 'caveman-esque speech' seems kind of weird and/or unnecessary, unless your character has some really funky backstory that justifies it (like being sheltered their whole life or something)... That's just me, though.
If that's truly what you want to do because it'll make you happiest, then go for it.
