(02-17-2017, 04:43 PM)Valence Wrote:(02-17-2017, 08:57 AM)Sounsyy Wrote: From what we've seen, most likely yes. A great example is Yamimi Farwalker, a Plainsfolk Lalafell who hails from the Yanxia region of Othard, who follows Plainsfolk naming conventions for her forename and Doman (Raen Au Ra) naming conventions for her surname/epithet. A Doman Miqo'te would likely follow similar conventions, maintaining a Miqo'te forename (without the tribal letter) and a Doman "surname."
Are you sure it's her last name and not one of those nicknames/aliases they give to NPC like Karasu Redbeak?
I did write "surname/epithet" and "'surname'" in quotations in my post you quoted? Since most Domans do not actually have a real surname, they have made-up epithets usually reminiscent of their profession. These surname/epithets (because they are kind of both at the same time but also not truly either) can be in the Doman language or in the Eorzea tongue.
Karasu Kanshi versus Karasu Redbeak
"Kanshi" can mean either poetry or observation in English, a fitting name for Karasu as he's verbose and poetic, but he's also an observer, a spy, a shinobi. He earned the epithet "Redbeak" for the blood of his slain countrymen.
Oboro Wrote:Karasu Redbeak. In the name of our elders, I take your life as divine retribution for your crimes. Your bloodstained beak will feast on the innocent no more.
Doman Naming Conventions Wrote:Unlike their Auri ancestors who employed clan names as surnames, the now-clanless Raen have adopted a more complex practice. Families of the warrior class (and generally the ruling class) are the only people “allowed†surnames in Doma, and they will often take surnames that displayed their battle prowess or position within an army. Though the names are not recognized by the ruling class, families of the merchant and peasant classes will still give themselves surnames as to make their everyday lives easier─the names reflecting their professions.
Yamimi Farwalker is undoubtedly using an epithet just as much as Yugiri Mistwalker is, but Yamimi's also a part of the merchant class and wouldn't have a true surname or clan name, not that Plainsfolk Lalafell have true surnames to begin with, which is another pointer to her not being Eorzean.
Lalafell Naming Conventions Wrote:Surnames are only surnames in placement, as they are not taken from the mother or father and are unique to the individual.
Yamimi Farwalker Wrote:My customer thought the world of him. 'Tis for the boy's sake I wrote the good master and made the long journey to Limsa Lominsa. In the last moon of his life, the boy asked me about the Far East.
Why is her epithet not Eorzean? Because Eorzean Plainsfolk Lalafell always say out their full name. Even when Alka Zolka goes by an epithet in game, the epithet goes afterwards: Alka Zolka the Thinker. The only exception to this rule I could find, besides Yamimi, is Luzlo "Lowthrust" Pulazlo, and even then, he is still called Luzlo Pulazlo and only the commonfolk call him by his gladiator epithet.
Lalafell Naming Conventions Wrote:Fun Fact: In everyday speech, Plainsfolk males will usually always use their full names, rarely ever breaking them down into solely first or last.
DAT Help Text Wrote:Plainsfolk males─notable Syndicate member Teledji Adeledji included─usually go by their entire full name, rather than first or last name alone.
Galeren Wrote:If pushed, I'd have to say Luzlo Pulazlo is the gladiator of the moment. Luzlo Lowthrust, the commonfolk call him.
Now is Yamimi somehow special because she's a female Plainsfolk? I couldn't say for sure, but I can say that she is from the Far East and uses epithets in place of surnames in a manner most similar to Doman immigrants.
