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(06-23-2013, 03:10 PM)blackdrakon Wrote: How do you figure that to be true? I can't believe I'm saying this - Joining any community is like buying a car. Are you going to put your money down before you know what you're getting? I just finished making several points stating why this community is so open to new players. Yes, different MMOs offer up different communities because each MMO has a variable difference in how their environment promotes role playing.
And what type of players am I provoking by telling someone to educate themselves on the community they're about to enter when doing so benefits their transition into the community anyway?
Just saying.
So in your words, joining this community is like buying a car - where I have to put down my consideration before I get what I want? Â That's quite a cliche metaphor there. Also if that's how you get cars, then that's quite a huge loss unfortunately.Â
Your several points doesn't really give any clarifications on why new people should expect that this community is open to them. Instead, you are bluntly telling them that we should "do some homework and learn to educate ourselves" that this community is different from what we have experienced before. Now, I have been in FFXI RP community (considering that there are FFXI RP players in here), and there has been a lot of anti-new player community before too. It was very hard to get into the RP interaction with the veteran players because they would be going into areas that new players can barely move around into, and they just would be like "let new players do their own thing. We can do our own thing instead."Â
So Hydaelyn Roleplaying Coalition is a "Friendly" community, but is it really newbie friendly to the community? I mean the only thing that I see that's considerable as "newbie friendly" is the Welcome Desk and nothing more. New players are having some hard time getting into the forum discussions. So do please enlighten me. Are you going to tell me that it is the players fault for not able to approach other veteran players properly? If that' s the case, then why are we having this forum for new players? Mentoring is a great idea, but that can take it up to many limits. Mentors can tolerate new member's RP skills, but when these new members go into the real field, they might not get what they expected from the experience they had with their mentors.Â
"This is a Hydaelyn Roleplaying Coalition, not EQ2, WoW, Tera" is a very cliche statement. Â What you are stating is nothing but saying "This group is better and superior than others because they accepted me and I accepted them. Therefore I support them and it is better than other community". What if there are better community than this? You are not helping new players like us to convince WHY we should join Balmung with other legacy players instead, you are just saying "quit your whining, and you put your own effort to be welcomed by others". Some players are not straightforward, and optimistic, or even confident to just approach and say "Excuse me, I'd like to join you guys". Â Even if they did say that, it's more of 50/50 that the others will accept this new player.
Also from other time when I posted about me shouting " I am looking for Roleplaying LS" in the town, you bluntly said in that post "Why in the world would you shout that? No one would Roleplay with you if you say that" - So this is another reason new players are discouraged of going to servers with veteran players with pre-made RP LS/groups.
Unfortunately, you are the one that is not helping, especially if you are trying to support this community and defending them, but also telling other new players making posts like "No one would tell you if you shout stuff like 'I am looking for roleplaying LS'". Especially when people have different ways of being initiative.Â