(03-19-2017, 05:23 AM)Valence Wrote:I didnt remember the 'exact' names hence the Black & White Materia but I was just using them as an example of a being avoiding 'death' and able to come back from a 'death' like state even if they actually never 'touch' that state.(03-18-2017, 09:14 PM)Ryslo Suramlo Wrote:(03-18-2017, 03:51 PM)Valence Wrote: On the lore side, the only thing I see that might cause trouble is the "being dead" thing... Unless your character wants to turn into a zombie, I'm not sure lore covers the possibility of coming back from the dead, at least, not yet to my knowledge.
It's possible to come close to it or being lost to the aetherial sea like Y'Shtola and the other Scions though. Who knows what you could find in there? Antitower style.
Plus don't the Ascian's use Black Materia to prevent themselves from joining the life force, virtually causing them to come back from death as death was never able to grab a hold? Think It is the one time you see this other then the Zombie References made throughout the game (Thanalan just outside Little Ala Mhigo, Dungeons ect.,). Ya the only thing we know about the life stream is that all characters return to it unless blocked by the usage of Black Aetheryte Crystals, Hence the usage of the White Crystals. We don't even know if there is a subconscious beyond death.. all we know is we turn into the flow of Aether as far as I know and spiritually believe in the '7 Hells' as NPC's have said on more then one occasion. Â We know that the 'Void' isn't death just a place where darker magic and horror's exist.. so not sure the answer on this one as far as lore.. seems vague enough to allow room but also seems a little stretching.
I'm not totally sure what you mean by "black materia", but the Ascians are a whole other kind of species that we don't know much about (yet). We don't know if they even are living beings, and if they follow the same rules than anything else.
They are servants of Zodiark, the Dark Crystal exiled to the Moon by Hydaelyn. It's the power of the Dark Crystal that seems to prevent their souls to be dispersed to the lifestream (which could mean that the WoL could be subject to the same blessing from the Crystal of Light? Comparison only valid as long as Ascians are similar beings and their echo power is similar though).
Anyway, the Dark Crystal refers to the power of Zodiark, and is not the same as any black crystal you might have in mind. Similarly, materia isn't the same as an aetherial crystal. Materia is the condensation of persona infused gear into small stones not that different from soulstones, with the difference that they don't quite hold souls or personas, just traces of it.
The only known way to kill Ascians is to use white auracyte, which can temporarily suck and hold any flow of aether, and then kill it with a particularly powerful aetherial blast (something even shattered Tupsimati had trouble to do). So far, the only two Ascians killed that way are Nabriales (by the sacrifice of Moenbryda) and Lahabrea (by the eye of Nidhogg).
Ascians are also immortal due to their nature of parasites, actually possessing people and discarding them when they need another one, not dissimilarly to voidsent.
Encyclopedia Eorzea Wrote:Servants of Darkness, the Ascians are pledged to Zodiark, a celestial syzygy legend holds was exiled in the moon by Hydaelyn Herself. From the shadows, they have shaped history by imparting forbidden knowledge unto mortals, stoking the fires of war while revealing the secrets of primal summoning. Throughout history they have been known by many a name, among those, Paragons and the Bringers of Chaos.
What the Ascians whence did the shadowless beings come? Do their bodies harbor "life" as is defined by our laws of nature or are they something different - something more sinister? As of this writing, these questions and more remain unanswered for want of evidence. Mankind has not, however, been completely blind to the existence of the Ascians. A report compiled by the Students of Baldesion points to their lingering presence throughout recorder history. Indeed, it is thought thse beings also known as Paragons have long interfered with the affairs of man, and are somehow connected to each of history's seven umbral calamities.
Recent direct encounters with the beings has shed more light on both their true nature and intentions. For one, the Ascians are known to posses the echo - just as the Warrior of Lightand a handful of his companions - and use this power to transfer their souls into the bodies of others. This is doubtless the secret behind how the so-called "immortals" have survived for so long. Should the vessel of an Ascian inhabited to be utterly obliterated, his soul does not appear to succumb to the tug of the lifestream. Instead, the Paragons harness the power of the Crystal of Darkness to find sanctuary in a space that lies twixt corporeal and aetherial. At present, there is only one known means to destroy an Ascian: entrap its soul within white auracyte - a substance capable of temporarily holding aether - and then shatter the stone with a blade of concentrated life energy.
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