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(06-24-2013, 09:38 PM)ForestGuardian Wrote: I seriously SERIOUSLY doubt he was telling you to get out if you want rugged characters. He was NOT telling you not to play FFXIV, he was telling you to not make him feel looked down on for RPing a pretty character in a pretty world with other pretty characters. He was telling you not to ask other people to ugly-up their characters to achieve a sense of realism that isn't always present in JRPGs and Final Fantasy in particular.
Really? Ok, that's cool. Let's clear this up:
First, could you point out to me where someone was looking down on him? Because for the life of me, I can't find it. Not in any re-reading of the posts to date. Nor can several other people. If you've got your finger on the hot-button, so to speak, let us know where it is. That way, we, as a community, can avoid this pitfall in the future.
Now, barring that (as was stated, I just plain don't see where anyone was saying he was bad, and should feel bad), he did say, as you quoted:
Quote:"People who are needing more grittiness here can find their grittiness and ugliness in every other kind of entertainment medium they could possibly think of, especially here in the States.
Basically: Go somewhere else. This passage here says that there is a flood of media for these people to go to, and that we should...
Quote:Just leave me a corner where I can live in a world where the fantasy element is ramped up to the point of idealism. It's what I like."
Indicating that he was running out of bastions from an encroaching, consuming hostile force. Which he isn't. Because this force doesn't exist.
So. When we follow the words themselves, not subtext, not implications, not anything but the words that were written, we're left with this message:
I wish you would go to any of the other places you can go to so that I can stay here.
Which is not great. If you have any other issues in following this train of thought, feel free to ask.