(07-22-2017, 03:15 AM)Caspar Wrote:(07-22-2017, 03:06 AM)Kieron Lohengrin Wrote: See, it works both waysNone of what you said is strictly wrong, sure, but generally I err on the side of being polite because it saves me trouble. It's not unreasonable to want to walk up to someone who's using /em and /say, and if you don't know that it's a private event, it's understandable you would try to. I think it's really just not unreasonable to ask people to enter a scene beforehand, or watch for a bit and decide for yourself whether it's something you think you'd be able to enter seamlessly. You can of course butt in, and people will react accordingly, but why struggle like that? The server is huge. There's plenty of folks to RP with.Â
I've seen plenty of rude people in game who respond aggressively when someone asks politely to be left alone during an FC event or something like that, as well as people who respond impolitely to walk up. There's no "right" way to RP. But asking in advance is a good way to get information and understand what's going on ahead of time, and frankly, it's just the more diplomatic way to do things. RP is a cooperative exercise, and I want to work with others, not against them.
I can respect that. Tbh I view most RP friction these days as a matchmaking issue, rather than a solvable git gud issue. Yoshi-P can wall off bads from endgame with the Royal Menagerie, but you can't cure shitty, attention-whoring RP cliques. GW2 still suffers that to this day with all the Divinity's Reach noble house / minister bullshit. For your sanity's sake and to save time you really have to just roll your eyes and move on.
(07-22-2017, 03:15 AM)Lydia Lightfoot Wrote: I'm going to go ahead and bow out of this one, because the point in a debate in which people become focused on which fallacy terms they can quote is the point at which the debate loses sight of the actual topic and shifts to bantering about fallacies, and that's frankly not productive for anything.
Here's what I'll leave with:
Having played in a lot - a lot - of various MMOs, and having seen more of them than not become (or already exist as) bastions of RP only among tight-knit clique groups who largely do not interact with each other and almost certainly do not engage in RP in the open world... I feel it's better that we celebrate the existence of open RP and that we try to all remember we're on the same team here. There are boors, for certain. Let's not change our behavior from being a welcoming and participation-encouraged community on account of some bad apples who won't handle that situation gracefully. Personally, I like to roleplay in an environment where my fellow roleplayers and I err on the side of acceptance and camaraderie rather than supporting exclusion and seclusion.
If I can read your RP, then it's an invitation for me to join in if I wish. We're all on the same team. If your situation is a proxy or out-of-time sort of thing, that's fine. Just tell me so after I post, and at worst, I'll have wasted my time posting a post and that's not a big deal to me. I'd rather waste time 50% of the time and have the experience of getting RP with some new people the other half, than feel like the only people I'm allowed to RP with without begging them to include me first are my existing friends. That seems terribly insular and that's not how I RP. If it's how you RP, then please do enjoy yourself, and we'll simply have a difference in how we think of the hobby.
To me it's akin to the people who want to be selective about FFXIV lore. Yes, there can only be a few padjal-chosen White Mages and one Azure Dragoon. However, goofball shit like Hildibrand exists and is canon. Lalafell exist and aren't creepy cabbage patch kids, they're grown-ass men and women. People who shrilly insist that "this and ONLY this development is worth acknowledging about this very public display I'm making in this online JRPG" are bad at improv and bad at RP.
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