(08-21-2017, 12:09 PM)Terrin Wrote:(08-21-2017, 11:46 AM)Gegenji Wrote: Is it really, though? How is his summoning any different than using Nidhogg's eyes and the worship/anguish of a people to become King Thordan or Shinryuu? Ancient items filled with aetheric power and a source to draw worship and shape from.
One really has to wonder if the gods exist at all (beyond perhaps Hydaelyn and Zodiark), leaving any that are "summoned" to be effectively Primals - beings summoned into the world via aether and desire.
That's the thing though; Susano wasn't really summoned, he just kinda showed up when his artifacts came together again. Even the Koijin were surprised to see him speak and take form.
Now that I think on it, he was kinda like Nidhogg's shade (assuming I understand what happened right). An actual spirit who was always there, just dormant.
I could also be completely off, but that what I got from the cutscene and small tidbits from the whole Susano bit.
Nidhogg's Shade isnt a primal but is alike one because it's not the original Nidhogg. When Haelsvagr was hesitant to fight against his own brother, Dad Dragon Midsgar...spellcheck made it clear that what they fought wasn't Nidhogg, but just a form taken by all the anger and hatred held within the eyes. Just pure rage in the form of Nidhogg. It's a similar thing Haelsvagr said to Ysayle about her Shiva summoning. That's not real Shiva, just some false embodiment based off the long past Shiva.
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