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I think the crux of your discussion is discretion and common sense, which is why I always preface my crashing in with "if my character would do it."
If someone is in a tavern and talking loudly about something interesting, I'll join the discussion; it's something I've done in real life in cafe's, actually. One time, an interviewer was discussing educational theory and practice with some young interviewees in the couch area around me. As a teacher, I was very interested, waited for the interview portion to be finished, and asked if I could join the open discussion that happened afterwards. I made some very valuable contacts and broadened my understanding of a few theories that day, so it's something I don't regret doing.
However, if someone is in a house, on the second floor, and emoting that they are cooking dinner, I'm not going to barge in from the street and say, "Give me food." Or, if I had a character that would do that, since the second floor and inside of a house is pretty much private space, I'd ask, "Would you mind a vagrant knocking at your door to ask for food?" Same for if I found a small group of people I didn't know deep in the Shroud; however, if the group is one I know ICly, I'm going to stumble in and say, "Whoa! Hey! What're you doing out here?" I may not necessarily stay, but I'll at least do a second of small talk if it's someone I know.
But yeah, that's it. Common sense. If the area being RP'd in is also an obviously public place from the IC perspective, like a street or a tavern, crash the party. If it's on the road, crash it. If it's deep in a cave, in the second storey of a house, or somewhere -weird-, take a second to listen in and consider whether inserting yourself is the best course of action.
Knowing when to crash and when not to crash is a judgment RPers develop over time, but only when they allow themselves the courage to disbelieve the myth of "nobody should ever crash ever." It can seem intimidating to start, but even if you make a mistake and enter a scene you probably shouldn't have, a good RPer will have the grace to recognize that and try help you develop your senses instead of thinking bad of you and yelling.
To me, that's the divide between good RPers and bad RPers -- acceptance and openness on an OOC level, the real test of which comes when people make honest mistakes or are trying to learn.
I think the crux of your discussion is discretion and common sense, which is why I always preface my crashing in with "if my character would do it."
If someone is in a tavern and talking loudly about something interesting, I'll join the discussion; it's something I've done in real life in cafe's, actually. One time, an interviewer was discussing educational theory and practice with some young interviewees in the couch area around me. As a teacher, I was very interested, waited for the interview portion to be finished, and asked if I could join the open discussion that happened afterwards. I made some very valuable contacts and broadened my understanding of a few theories that day, so it's something I don't regret doing.
However, if someone is in a house, on the second floor, and emoting that they are cooking dinner, I'm not going to barge in from the street and say, "Give me food." Or, if I had a character that would do that, since the second floor and inside of a house is pretty much private space, I'd ask, "Would you mind a vagrant knocking at your door to ask for food?" Same for if I found a small group of people I didn't know deep in the Shroud; however, if the group is one I know ICly, I'm going to stumble in and say, "Whoa! Hey! What're you doing out here?" I may not necessarily stay, but I'll at least do a second of small talk if it's someone I know.
But yeah, that's it. Common sense. If the area being RP'd in is also an obviously public place from the IC perspective, like a street or a tavern, crash the party. If it's on the road, crash it. If it's deep in a cave, in the second storey of a house, or somewhere -weird-, take a second to listen in and consider whether inserting yourself is the best course of action.
Knowing when to crash and when not to crash is a judgment RPers develop over time, but only when they allow themselves the courage to disbelieve the myth of "nobody should ever crash ever." It can seem intimidating to start, but even if you make a mistake and enter a scene you probably shouldn't have, a good RPer will have the grace to recognize that and try help you develop your senses instead of thinking bad of you and yelling.
To me, that's the divide between good RPers and bad RPers -- acceptance and openness on an OOC level, the real test of which comes when people make honest mistakes or are trying to learn.