(09-12-2013, 12:59 PM)Lament Wrote:(09-12-2013, 12:35 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: I guess I kind of see your point, but I'll be honest... Â While I myself hadn't planned on using those battles in my own character's background, what you (and others) have posted has honestly come across to me as very stand-offish, and exclusionary. Â I mean, if one part of the lore in the game (that being that the Primals are being summoned at an increasing rate, and are being repeatedly defeated by both groups of adventurers and larger-scale groups within the Grand Companies) just isn't something you want to deal with, I have to ask what else from the story you're against having people have in their backgrounds?
TBH, what these posts do is intimidate players like me from ever even trying to RP with players like you. Â Because I can't help but wonder if you wouldn't look down your nose at the story for my character.
I posted similar things, I ran RP groups for years in a highly judgmental environment, so I'll take a gander:
You can RP however you like. If you want to RP a different fandom altogether within FFXIV, you can. Nobody has any right to judge you for what you like to do, especially as a hobby, if you're not harming anyone.
But RP, ultimately, comes down to compatibility. You can be the most open-minded person in the world, but if your style and someone else's don't match, then they don't match, and there is little anyone can do about it.
I like planning things in advance and discussing characters extensively. I like having an idea of where my character is headed. I also know that plans are fluid and can change, but I still enjoy them, and I especially enjoy figuring out ways to get two seemingly unrelated characters to interact based on discussion (which by default requires some planning). I RP best with people who like to mix spontaneity with a bit of planning and plenty of discussion.
Likewise, someone else may not enjoy planning in advance at all. If I suggest planning, this may annoy them, and make them feel like I'm trying to control the direction their character goes in, for instance. They may prefer to not disclose details about their character at all, and let everything happen naturally and spontaneously. They would RP best with like-minded people.
Neither style is superior to the other. They're just different. I probably would not RP with someone who likes full spontaneity only, because it's likely to cause conflict - not because I think they're inferior.
If there's a part of lore someone would prefer to be moderate about (or disregard), that's their prerogative. If someone wants to disregard lore altogether, that's their prerogative. If someone wants to consider the main storyline as actually having happened to their character, that's their prerogative.
There's no elitism in having standards. There is in pushing them on other people. You don't need to RP with someone if you feel their standards are too different from yours. That's okay. RP is like any other hobby - you like some things, other people like other things, and nobody needs to change what they like to fit the needs of someone else. If you dislike classical music, I shouldn't be making you listen to it. If I dislike rock, you shouldn't be making me listen to it. You can listen to rock and I can listen to classical music and we can both be happy.
Sure.
But don't tell me that my choice to include parts of the lore present in the game, that fit into what has been stated explicitly in quest text and dialogue, is some how "lore breaking" because you just don't like it.
Because that, quite frankly, is absolute bullshit. Â And it muddies the waters horribly.
Exactly what kind of "standard" is it when you're blatantly ignoring the lore of the game? Â Just because you don't like it, and then claiming that anyone who includes said lore in their backgrounds is being a mary sue/overpowered/ridiculous/munchkin, etc?
Having "standards," as if someone including the Lore in their background somehow doesn't have standards? Â Can't you see how pejorative that is? Â How exclusionary, and downright silly? Â Wouldn't it actually be the opposite? Â That you don't have the standards because you're choosing to ignore the lore in the game itself?
Edit:
It occurs to me that I'm coming across as really aggressive, and that's not really my intent. I'm a very opinionated person (lol I know, it's such a shock!) and can come across as more accusatory/aggressive than I intend when I actually care about a subject. Please don't take this as me jumping on you and hitting you with a stick. D: I swear to god that's not my intent!
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