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I was hesitant to post this but I figured it was probably healthier for people to be upfront and honest if concepts like this are ever to fully reach their full potential…
I won’t comment too much on the f-bombs, sex chat, etc, because I didn’t really see it /that/ often (though being afk and spending 8 hours a day working on the new site is possibly the reason for that). However, I do agree with Aysun’s primary points. We all represent the RP community in everything we do. If someone wants to ERP or do some outrageous RP, more power to them. It’s 100% their right to do so. Just don’t do it in public (Market Wards included…). We’ve had discussions on this on these very forums before. Some may not care what the non-Rpers think of them, but a good chunk of this community DOES care. Granted, there are some RP haters and trolls who will forever be beyond reason. But that’s not the point. The RP community has a reputation to uphold to other communities. Some of us have been using multiple behind-the-scenes strategies to expand the RP community. Those strategies can hit brick walls when others unknowingly ruin it through their public antics. Not only that, but it causes small splinters in the RP community itself, which is what everyone is seeing manifest right now. We really can't afford splinters and/or stifling growth right now.
Again, I haven’t seen too much of the above myself. But I agree with the overall premise of the argument brought forth.
Now on to the part I was hesitant to post…I also dropped my Intermission pearl last night. My reason for doing so was completely different though than those who may have left over the above reasoning. After the absolutely abysmal turnout to the excavation event (and its subsequent cancellation as a result), I started to ask myself if these people I shared a shell with were ACTUALLY role-players at all. They liked to -talk- about RP a lot. But when it came to actually participating, it seemed an entirely different story. When you have 20+ Rpers on the shell and only 2 turn out to a unique event that breaks the cliché tavern gathering mold, it’s rather quite devastating (even moreso when 3 of those no-show 20+ are members of the hosting shell…which prompted me to just spare myself a lot of future heartache and dissolve Archavalon early, but that’s neither here nor there).
And it’s not just about this one event either. I’ve seen this happen in a multitude of events. This one was just the breaking point for me and thus is the one I’m using as an example. I’ve Rped for about 8 or so years now in an MMO setting and Eorzea is the first ever instance where I constantly see the “I can’t attend the event because it’s not something my character would do†excuse. The Rpers I’ve known for years now (who are absolutely phenomenal Rpers by the way), don’t need an “excuse†to go to an IC event. Where there’s a will, there’s always been a way. I’ll take Endricane as an example. He sent me a tell that his character had no IC reason to attend and asked if it would make sense for Avalon to hire a bodyguard for Kylin. I responded by saying that Ky wouldn’t be at the event, but it would make sense for the excavation team to hire mercenaries for protecting the miners. Within 10 seconds and a mere tell, he had a valid IC reason to attend for his character. I think he deserves applause for actually reaching out and FINDING a reason for his character to be there.
I’m not sure where I’m actually going with this rant. My point I guess is that I want to be part of a ROLE-PLAY community first and foremost, much like several others I’ve talked to. I don’t mind socializing with fellow Rpers in an OOC fashion. But I was under the impression that the OOC shell would be a way to /unite/ the RP community by fostering greater communication, greater event participation, and so on. Perhaps I was wrong in assuming this. If the primary basis behind the shell’s concept is indeed just a social outlet, as it seems to currently be, I personally have no need for it. And as such, I’m presently dropping my support for it. I may reconsider at a later point in time. We’ll see. But the only reason I even play this game at all is for RP. Everything else (leves, etc), takes a backseat to that for me. When you feel like everyone else has a different view in that area and when you see everyone constantly making excuses as to why they can’t attend this or that event, the atmosphere becomes one that’s difficult to stick around in.
One of my purposes with this public storyline was to reveal the multitude of RP events we as a community were capable of that didn’t follow the same old format every single time. After this event, Toto-Rak and a primal fight were next in line and could have revealed ways for Rpers to recycle in game content for a myriad of purposes.
Anyway, I’ll cut this off now so I can stop rambling xD. Good luck to Intermission. Hopefully I’ll still see a lot of you around from time to time.
I won’t comment too much on the f-bombs, sex chat, etc, because I didn’t really see it /that/ often (though being afk and spending 8 hours a day working on the new site is possibly the reason for that). However, I do agree with Aysun’s primary points. We all represent the RP community in everything we do. If someone wants to ERP or do some outrageous RP, more power to them. It’s 100% their right to do so. Just don’t do it in public (Market Wards included…). We’ve had discussions on this on these very forums before. Some may not care what the non-Rpers think of them, but a good chunk of this community DOES care. Granted, there are some RP haters and trolls who will forever be beyond reason. But that’s not the point. The RP community has a reputation to uphold to other communities. Some of us have been using multiple behind-the-scenes strategies to expand the RP community. Those strategies can hit brick walls when others unknowingly ruin it through their public antics. Not only that, but it causes small splinters in the RP community itself, which is what everyone is seeing manifest right now. We really can't afford splinters and/or stifling growth right now.
Again, I haven’t seen too much of the above myself. But I agree with the overall premise of the argument brought forth.
Now on to the part I was hesitant to post…I also dropped my Intermission pearl last night. My reason for doing so was completely different though than those who may have left over the above reasoning. After the absolutely abysmal turnout to the excavation event (and its subsequent cancellation as a result), I started to ask myself if these people I shared a shell with were ACTUALLY role-players at all. They liked to -talk- about RP a lot. But when it came to actually participating, it seemed an entirely different story. When you have 20+ Rpers on the shell and only 2 turn out to a unique event that breaks the cliché tavern gathering mold, it’s rather quite devastating (even moreso when 3 of those no-show 20+ are members of the hosting shell…which prompted me to just spare myself a lot of future heartache and dissolve Archavalon early, but that’s neither here nor there).
And it’s not just about this one event either. I’ve seen this happen in a multitude of events. This one was just the breaking point for me and thus is the one I’m using as an example. I’ve Rped for about 8 or so years now in an MMO setting and Eorzea is the first ever instance where I constantly see the “I can’t attend the event because it’s not something my character would do†excuse. The Rpers I’ve known for years now (who are absolutely phenomenal Rpers by the way), don’t need an “excuse†to go to an IC event. Where there’s a will, there’s always been a way. I’ll take Endricane as an example. He sent me a tell that his character had no IC reason to attend and asked if it would make sense for Avalon to hire a bodyguard for Kylin. I responded by saying that Ky wouldn’t be at the event, but it would make sense for the excavation team to hire mercenaries for protecting the miners. Within 10 seconds and a mere tell, he had a valid IC reason to attend for his character. I think he deserves applause for actually reaching out and FINDING a reason for his character to be there.
I’m not sure where I’m actually going with this rant. My point I guess is that I want to be part of a ROLE-PLAY community first and foremost, much like several others I’ve talked to. I don’t mind socializing with fellow Rpers in an OOC fashion. But I was under the impression that the OOC shell would be a way to /unite/ the RP community by fostering greater communication, greater event participation, and so on. Perhaps I was wrong in assuming this. If the primary basis behind the shell’s concept is indeed just a social outlet, as it seems to currently be, I personally have no need for it. And as such, I’m presently dropping my support for it. I may reconsider at a later point in time. We’ll see. But the only reason I even play this game at all is for RP. Everything else (leves, etc), takes a backseat to that for me. When you feel like everyone else has a different view in that area and when you see everyone constantly making excuses as to why they can’t attend this or that event, the atmosphere becomes one that’s difficult to stick around in.
One of my purposes with this public storyline was to reveal the multitude of RP events we as a community were capable of that didn’t follow the same old format every single time. After this event, Toto-Rak and a primal fight were next in line and could have revealed ways for Rpers to recycle in game content for a myriad of purposes.
Anyway, I’ll cut this off now so I can stop rambling xD. Good luck to Intermission. Hopefully I’ll still see a lot of you around from time to time.