(06-24-2014, 06:15 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote: the refugees at Little Ala Mhigo attempt (and may have succeeded) to summon Rhalgr with the help of the Ascians.
According to the MSQ "Big Trouble in Little Ala Mhigo" the misguided children do not succeed in anything but making fools of themselves.
Quote:It seems that Wilred and his friends have been plotting to summon Rhalgr. To this end, they seek to infiltrate an Amalj'aa stronghold and steal the beastmen's cache of crystals. Intercept Wilred and his conspirators to the east of Little Ala Mhigo before the unthinkable comes to pass.-Journal Text "Big Trouble in Little Ala Mhigo"
Wilred's plan has come to naught, as have his hopes of reclaiming his homeland. Return to little Ala Mhigo and speak with Gundobald.
Wilred reveals that it was the masked stranger who first prompted him and his friends to entertain the notion of summoning Rhalgr. But what did Lahabrea - if indeed it was he - hope to accomplish by putting great power in the hands of the unworthy?
So again, to summon a Primal you need a very large stash of the properly aspected crystals and a whoooooooole lot of fervent prayer. Once the Primal has actually been summoned, it drains massive amounts of aether from the planet to maintain its form in this plane of existence. This massive aether death is what the Ascians are after, because not all of the dead aether can be recycled back into the planet and some of it slips into the Void and feeds Zodiark.
Based on the "entertain the notion" quote, I doubt this particular Ascian believed that 4 kids could actually summon the Great Rhalgr. He merely told them how to do it. If they succeeded, great! More aether for Zodiark. If they failed, they ticked off the Amalj'aa and the beastmen would destroy Little Ala Mhigo and yay more aether lost into the Void. Win/Win!
Also given the fact that the Primals are just lesser gods, summoning a real god like Rhalgr or Halone would be much more difficult. I'm not sure if you finished the 1.0 storyline, but the last quest "Living on a Prayer" was all about trying to awaken The Twelve. Even with massive stores of crystals, the fervent prayers of hundreds of adventurers, Echo blessed Scions, and civilian pilgrims to the Shrines of the Twelve, we were unsuccessful at actually awakening any of the Twelve at the end of the era. If we couldn't do it then, in our most dire hour with all of the right ingredients, I seriously doubt a band of rogue zealots could summon Halone on a whim.
Even if Shiva was summoned by the Ishgardians, my previous plot holes still stand. She would be soaking up massive amounts of aether and killing the planet. She would be easily detected by the Scions the moment she entered this plane. And without fervent prayers to her as the Primal Shiva, she would whither within this world.
I can't really buy the whole "someone meant to summon Halone but accidentally popped out a Shiva instead." If fervent prayers to the desired god are needed, I don't think its plausible that Shiva ninja'd all up on Halone's prayers while hanging out in the Void. This would also assume that the visions of Halone that both Thordan and Haldrath received 700 years ago were both of Shiva and not of Halone. Considering the parallels between The Holy See of Ishgard and of Catholicism, I'm willing to bet there's some stained glass windows depicting Halone somewhere, possibly dating back 700 years. Remember the first recorded instances of Primals entering Eorzea during the Sixth Astral Era was in 1562.
