I'm seeing a whole lot of overreacting to people finding ways to hurry up a time consuming process. It's the nature of man to take what we are given and find ways to do it efficiently. In the case of long distances? Pack animals, cars, boats, planes. In the case of an MMO dungeon? Sometimes that's a speed run. : P
Are we really rushing in and condemning people for doing this? Some of them are jerks, yes, but... they aren't ALL jerks (as has been said many times in this thread already :>). Many of them, no, shall I say, US (gasp!), were just trying to be efficient. I will also point out that many of us, when asked, are quite willing to go back and help others advance, as well. And you know what? We have experience and awesome gear, so the people we helped had a good time of it and maybe learned a thing or two as well.
I could go on and on about how innocent speed runs were for most of the people I run dungeons with, but what I'm really trying to get across here is that there's no need to go in, guns blazing, on the mild majority. I, and many others certainly weren't out to mess up anyone's gaming experience. Is it necessary to point fingers and call names? There are plenty of great posts in this thread branching off of the dungeon modification that don't require any of us to throw around "cheater" or "elitist." Thank some of you guys for that!
Sum up: be nice, please~! I'm changing this topic name to start what I hope will be a change in tone in this thread.
Are we really rushing in and condemning people for doing this? Some of them are jerks, yes, but... they aren't ALL jerks (as has been said many times in this thread already :>). Many of them, no, shall I say, US (gasp!), were just trying to be efficient. I will also point out that many of us, when asked, are quite willing to go back and help others advance, as well. And you know what? We have experience and awesome gear, so the people we helped had a good time of it and maybe learned a thing or two as well.
I could go on and on about how innocent speed runs were for most of the people I run dungeons with, but what I'm really trying to get across here is that there's no need to go in, guns blazing, on the mild majority. I, and many others certainly weren't out to mess up anyone's gaming experience. Is it necessary to point fingers and call names? There are plenty of great posts in this thread branching off of the dungeon modification that don't require any of us to throw around "cheater" or "elitist." Thank some of you guys for that!
Sum up: be nice, please~! I'm changing this topic name to start what I hope will be a change in tone in this thread.