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Darkfae · **09-01-2013, 05:39 PM**

I agree with others - it all depends on the execution and the IC reasoning for it.

Claire is going to have dabbled in all of the melee classes, though I've not picked which one she's going to have as her primary class, as I dislike how Gladiator plays now. Her reason is that she wants to be able to defend herself somewhat, regardless of situation; that doesn't mean she'll be even moderately good at many of them, and that definitely means she won't know advanced techniques for all of them.

Kyma is going to be primarily Arcanist and Scholar with a little bit of Conjurer (as that's what he originally was in 1.0) ICly, with some possible Summoner (I'm still debating how I want to handle Summoner, given you have to have killed each Primal to summon in lore). He's starting out generally bad at magic aside from summoning, and will get better with magic (healing first, then damage) over time. ACN/SCH/SMN are all from the same branch, so I don't fault anyone from using all three in RP, if it's done tastefully.

LandStander · **09-01-2013, 06:12 PM**

I don't mind having cross skills such as knowing your way around the pokey end of a spear and throwing in an aero spell, but what I don't like is when people master two or more classes or know 6 basic classes but their character is 18 years old. That kind of stuff irks meÂ Dodgy

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I like to think of it in terms of college degree's. Having six associate degree's at the age of 18 or 2 doctorate degree's at 23 is pretty out there. Mastering a skill takes a lot of time.

The way I approached it is my character comes from a long line of mercenaries and sellswords so she begun her training from an extremely early age. I was inspired to go this route because my Anatomy teacher was telling us a story about how he learned to shoot his first bow at the age of five because his entire family are archers who make their own bows from scratch. So him being 50 years old with 40+ years of training with the bow has probably made him pretty bad ass with one. Now back to my character...Despite this though and being 27, she still has not really mastered any of them, but is proficient in a few things, swords, axes, hand-to-hand combat. She also has a above aether content (I can't remember how to describe it. I remember the THM quest level 5 I think talks about a guy who couldn't become a THM because his aether content was too low), but has no idea how to use magic. This makes her more susceptible to magic debuff spells, like sleep, paralyze, and such. I think it's really important to give your character weaknesses, especially if they are going to be skill with multiple forms of combat.Â

I'm leaving her open IC as far as which she will master. If she stays the way she is she might become a monk or maybe won't master anything. If she finds closure regarding the death of her father and finds his axe, she will go warrior as to follow in his footsteps. If she finds close friends and people to protect, she will take up the sword and shield and become a paladin.Â

In short, its completely okay to know your way around a few classes, but let's not over do it and consider adding in the amount of time, effort, history, and your characters age into the equation.

FreelanceWizard · **09-01-2013, 06:32 PM**

(09-01-2013, 06:12 PM)LandStander Wrote: I don't mind having cross skills such as knowing your way around the pokey end of a spear and throwing in an aero spell, but what I don't like is when people master two or more classes or know 6 basic classes but their character is 18 years old. That kind of stuff irks meÂ .Â

I like to think of it in terms of college degree's. Having six associate degree's at the age of 18 or 2 doctorate degree's at 23 is pretty out there. Mastering a skill takes a lot of time.

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In short, its completely okay to know your way around a few classes, but let's not over do it and consider adding in the amount of time, effort, history, and your characters age into the equation.

Very well put. Smile

The IC explanation, IMO, has to make sense across the board -- even PCs, who are the Best of the Best of the Best (with apologies to the Men in Black), need some time to adopt skills at a high level of "RP power."

Martiallais · **09-01-2013, 09:21 PM**

This came up because of a 'debate' in our LS. Big Grin

Like I said there, I'm of a mind (personally) that everyone's going to do what they want. But, it needs to be within some kind of limits (aka varying levels of skill in the various things) and make sense IC-ly. Having a character who is a master paladin/black mage/white mage/bard all at once IC-ly is just...over the top to me.

Yes, we all have access to cross class skills (and how much of that is IC is of course going to vary from person to person) and given enough time someone could potentially master everything but a large majority of characters are in their 20s-30s which, unless that's all you did for all of your life, it doesn't really make sense (again in my opinion) to say you've mastered half a dozen varying things...some of which have taken other characters a significant part of their life to master.

It's very 'your mileage may vary' and only really comes up when people's thoughts on it clash. I mean, it makes sense that people can (and do/should) dabble in other things. Adventurers have lots of skills, usually pretty diverse ones (thus cross-classing) but master of all...yeah not so much.

Raeletta · **09-02-2013, 05:42 AM**

I was thinking about this when I realised I'd forsaken my original plans for the sake of playing the game. My original plans were to become a Monk as a main thing and simply have a lot of learning but little experience in everything else gained over time. But avoiding the super hero moments I will be following the story, at least the Job/Class stories and failing (Failing the duty) would actually limit me for some time: IC consequences for what is technically an OOC failure.

I ended up picking up Conjurer and far out-levelling my starting class Â (23 PGL) as a level 34 White Mage because I was getting really pissed at 2 hour waits for dungeons.

I have an in character story sort of floating around, but this thread has helped solidify how to limit her in character power. Thanks for mentioning the Age problem too, I had completely overlooked that, and no matter what she won't be more than about 20 years old, she just doesn't look it.

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