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Tiergan · **01-06-2015, 06:36 PM**

Why do people think that they have to leave the RPC forums if they're on Gligamesh? o_O I thought this forum was for everybody?

Melkire · **01-06-2015, 07:05 PM**

(01-06-2015, 06:36 PM)Tiergan Wrote: Why do people think that they have to leave the RPC forums if they're on Gligamesh? o_O Â I thought this forum was for everybody?

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Very common misconception. I'm guessing it went/goes something like this.

1. Prevalence of Balmung roleplayers here on RPC, which has been compounded by...

2. Gilgamesh roleplayers feeling they're unwelcome/unwanted here, which was a result of...

3. A history of controversial forum topics that devolved from debates into pissing contests, e.g. "my server is better than your server!", that mostly arose from...

4. A smaller population on Gilgamesh from the get-go, compared to Balmung's legacy statusÂ (see: Fabul and Besaid server merger).

Shizuka · **01-06-2015, 07:30 PM**

(01-06-2015, 04:31 PM)Black Hat Wrote:
(01-06-2015, 04:10 PM)Seriphyn Wrote: I went to the Quicksand during NA uptime on Gilgamesh. Empty.

Contrast to Quicksand during the same time on Balmung. Full to the brim. Sure, Quicksand might not be an RP hub on Gilgamesh, but I thought I'd fine at least a FEW RPers.

Incorrect. Gilgamesh RPers do not generally RP in the open, preferring their neighborhoods in the private housing areas. There have been a few, brief, open RP moments but they last no longer than thirty minutes and seem to happen in passing.

I'd find this kind of debatable, to a degree. While it's true that there's a lot of neighborhood RP (we have nearly an entire ward of LB dedicated to RP!), I've also seen quite a bit just wandering around the cities. The difficulty, of course, comes in that it doesn't seem to be centralized. There's not a specific hub so much as there are just people going around and RPing as they do their own things. That also means I've found RP just sort of out and about in the world too, not just in the main cities.

The weekly events are a little...monotonous to me; too many open bar nights for my tastes. But we've recently had several very NOT bar nights that were fun to participate in. One of the most fun I've been to in a while was a Starlight party in Ul'dah, in which we passed out gifts and food to refugees. Mind you, this took place outside of the Quicksand, not really inside of it.

All in all, I've played on both servers. I'd personally agree with the earlier sentiment that it feels easier to get 'lost' on Balmung. Both servers have their goods and bads, and it's really up to personal preference as to which one suits your needs as an individual.

FreelanceWizard · **01-06-2015, 08:15 PM**

(01-06-2015, 06:36 PM)Tiergan Wrote: Why do people think that they have to leave the RPC forums if they're on Gligamesh? o_O I thought this forum was for everybody?

I figure I should chime in here...

For what it's worth, in my mind, the RPC is for all RPers on XIV; we just only have forums for two servers, Balmung and Gilgamesh, because they were the ones voted on by the RPC community around the 2.x Beta 3 timeframe as the unofficial RP servers, and it'd be infeasible to have more forums. In the pre-AWS days, that was because we were already maxing out our host; in our new AWS world, it's a matter of having an approachable UI and not making other servers feel like they're unwelcome or have less approachable RP because their forums here are less active.

It's not my intention to eliminate the Gilgamesh forums here even though they have a RP community site for the server now (http://www.gilgamesh-rp.com, for those wondering Smile

). Discussions of merging the Events and Directory forums in the past were to help people find things more effectively via filtering by thread tag and to minimize any "server versus server" feel, not a way to squelch one server in favor of another. At any rate, the community didn't like that proposal (it was roundly voted down), so the forums remain.

Yes, there were some very acrimonious arguments over servers Back In The Day™, but now, the RPC is open to any roleplayer on XIV, regardless of server. Smile

Our forum focus is on Balmung and Gilgamesh, yes, but many of the forums are useful regardless of your server, and the wiki is, IMO, one of the best resources available for RPers.

#magicAdminHat

No Longer Exists · **01-06-2015, 10:12 PM**

*Covets that magicAdminHat, for it is far shinier than his old black one*

Freelance is quite correct. From what I've witnessed here on the RPC and in conversation with Gilgamesh RPers, there is no animosity involved anymore. There had been a brief history of poo-flinging, but most have forgotten all about it.Â

What it boils down to is, like so many other things, preference becoming the norm. Gilgameshians decided to coordinate amongst themselves rather than use the RPC for more than the wiki and an occasional recruitment drive for FCs. Some decided on a dedicated forum for Gilgamesh itself and it has now become the main forum much like the RPC has for Balmung and other servers.Â

What you find on the RPC with such lovely folk like Miss Lalah, The Bridgeguard Roe, and Myself is an inkling of the friendliness and openness. Some folks see the "segregation" of Gilgamesh as snobbish and I'd really like to make certain that it's clear this is not the case. As Miss Lalah mentioned, it really depends upon your preference in RP. There can be arguments made for and against the concept of "RP Neighborhoods" and a distinct lack of Open World RP, as there have been time and time again. Â I have made some of them myself, frankly, and even expressed my disdain for the gilgamesh-centric forum because of my own personal preferences and yet I point new RPers to it when I come across them. A community is only as good as its people and its people are only as good as the community they associate with.Â

I hope this helps clear up the mystery, because silence only leads to rumors and conjecture and since many Gilgameshian's have stepped away from the RPC, there's less likelihood of a response to these questions unless one of us hanger-ons takes note of it. Smile

Cheers!

OttoVann · **01-06-2015, 10:33 PM**

Balmung strong!

Austratus · **01-07-2015, 05:22 PM**

Seems like he's made his decision. Good luck on your new server!

Nester · **01-07-2015, 05:27 PM**

(01-07-2015, 05:22 PM)Austratus Wrote: Seems like he's made his decision. Good luck on your new server!

Thank you! But, please, don't let my decision deflate this thread. There may be others who come along with the same question.

Velaena · **01-09-2015, 09:37 AM**

I'm currently having this same issue, though it may be that I'm a european player with a lot of free time, so it's pretty empty in Gilgamesh when I log on about midday.Â

I was considering transferring my alt to Balmung, so I had one on each server. Then I could see how it was and maybe transfer my main after a while. Overall it just seems like the Balmung community is far more active and open. Contrarywise, I also read in a thread that as Balmung is a legacy server there are far more people that have played 1.0, and since I haven't I don't know if it would make a difference or not.

No Longer Exists · **01-09-2015, 09:46 AM**

*Peeks out from under his hat* Your knowledge of the lore (be it 1.0 or 2.0 lore) will have very little impact on your involvement in RP so long as you keep an open, friendly, and communicative mind. It's not so much about what you know as how you socialize, we're all quite friendly. *Pulls the hat back down*

FreelanceWizard · **01-09-2015, 10:45 AM**

(01-09-2015, 09:37 AM)Velaena Wrote: Contrarywise, I also read in a thread that as Balmung is a legacy server there are far more people that have played 1.0, and since I haven't I don't know if it would make a difference or not.

One thing I would point out is that 1.0 had a shockingly small population of players. Even many people on the RPC whose accounts hail from the heady days of 2010ish often didn't stay for very long (I know I didn't). While legacy servers do have players and characters from 1.0 on them, the people new for 2.0 vastly outnumber them. So, even if you were worried about legacy players (which I wouldn't be; all the ones here are very nice Smile

), due to sheer numbers, they don't have a disproportionate influence.

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