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RE: Warriors of Light |
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07-08-2013, 05:13 AM
One thing I'd like to point out, at least in regards to how SE went about handling character transfers from 1.0 to 2.0, is that technically FFXIV: ARR is a brand new game, not JUST a reboot of an old game. It's no different than say the remakes of the classic Final Fantasy games, or the sequels like FFXIII-2 or even FFX-2. In none of those games were you allowed to say "Hey, I already played this game. I should be able to keep my old stuff." Well... maybe in FFXIII-2 since I never played it, but I know in the remakes and in FFX-2 you started fresh.

They did something that allowed them to import character data from the previous version of the game while still allowing them to keep those characters relevant to the updated lore. Does it feel a little cheap? Maybe, but can you imagine how much longer we'd be waiting for the game to come out if they had to write two entirely different storylines with two entirely different sets of quests for people who were in 1.0 and people starting fresh in 2.0? Could you imagine the outcry they would get from that?

You have to keep in mind as a demographic, we as roleplayers are somewhat insignificant. If they catered primarily to us they'd be catering to a small percent of their target market. The way I see things, they didn't come up with a storyline that throws all your RP from 1.0 into the garbage. They provided you a challenge to find a way around as not just RPers, but as writers. Sure, you could simply dismiss the whole thing and go about your life like it never happened, but in my opinion that only means you gave up on a challenge when other people are willing to roll with it and write their stories with the Lore SE provided.

Honestly, I think the target of making everyone forget the 1.0 players in the story was so that whether you're just now starting, or you've been playing since the game launched in 2010, everyone starts with a sort of clean slate which means it's easier to believe everyone is on a level playing field come end game. The story of FFXIV is over, it's time to become the heroes of A Realm Reborn, not grumpy old vets talking about the glory days before Dalamud fell from the sky.

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RE: Warriors of Light |
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07-08-2013, 08:44 AM
(07-08-2013, 01:11 AM)Kyatai Wrote: Oohhh so kinda like a mixture of

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.....psychosomatics and psychic imagery? Where in you can sometimes sense, feel/experience, and see what happened at pivotal moments in their lives?

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More or less, though...
...as Minfilia explains it, the perspective can change, and you can sometimes see things that the person you're "Echoing" wasn't able to (and that actually happens once in the main scenario quests around level 16 or so). You can even sometimes interact with people in the memory, but you can't actually change anything, nor would those people recall that you'd done so.

Also, the Echo seems entirely out of the PC's control.

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Also sounds like either the person was 'born' with it or it just became part of them, totally unawares. No... bolt of lightning or shower of sparklies... or a massive onslaught of kupos wanting to hug you...

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Interestingly enough...
There's a cutscene after a quest at around level 7 where you "formally" get the Echo; the Crystal of Hydaelyn comes to you in a vision and makes you one of its chosen. You also see as part of that cutscene that there are thousands of others like you. It's strongly suggested in that same quest dialogue, though never outright stated, that possession of the Echo is required to see Moogles as well.

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RE: Warriors of Light |
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07-08-2013, 09:18 AM
Tadir was nowhere near the battle, so he's not a warrior of light anyway.

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RE: Warriors of Light |
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07-08-2013, 02:07 PM
Oohh very interesting....
So.... my character could be legitimately confused as to why she saw the Moogles going to Ul'dah... until she is 'recognized' later...

/ponders....

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RE: Warriors of Light |
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07-08-2013, 02:34 PM
They've been a bit confusing on the subject of moogles as of late, honestly. In XIV, Moogles are an ancient race that has been around for a very, very long time. They've almost exclusively made their home in the Twelveswood, and lived alongside the elementals.

As such, they're very in tune with the happenings of Gridania and the shroud, and that had been their focus for the longest of times. Now, in 1.0, everyone could see moogles. It was only those with the Echo (and the Padjali), however, that could understand Mooglespeak - their language.

Now, I do remember it being mentioned in the new opening that moogles can't be seen by just anyone, which sort of throws a wrench in what they've previously established. It also seems to contradict the lore behind the mailing system. Canonically, the moogles started delivering mail after the calamity because linkpearls had temporarily lost all function. No one had any means of communications, and the moogles stepped up to fill that need. Eventually, some realized it was their true calling and they kept at it.

The moogles even went so far as to jokingly say they were sick and tired of hearing everyone yell at eachother in order to relay messages, so they started the mail system. Anyways, point being, mail moogles seem to be commonplace for all Eorzeans. It'd be a bit strange if mail was handed off to you by some invisible force every now and again.

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SpoilerWe've seen moogles to have a variety of powers and magical capabilities. I mean, they're moogles after all. I wouldn't be surprised if moogles possessed the ability to make themselves invisible at will to the naked eye - or rather, the naked eye of most people. Perhaps those with the echo are able to see the moogles when they are choosing to remain hidden, due in part to their unique connection to the mother crystal / aether.

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RE: Warriors of Light |
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07-08-2013, 02:50 PM
Mind.. *implodes*
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lol thanks Merri... Wink
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