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Olofantur Olofantur Find all posts by this user Ancient Amateur Posts:753 Joined:Feb 2013 Character:Quarimar Baenund Server:Balmung Reputation: 61 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #31 10-02-2014, 12:53 PM I think as long as we have those back logs then it'll be easy enough to deal with misinformation just reverting or re editing, Would we be able to put in a rule for "If you have been found to have posted/removed the same incorrect/controversial information on the same topic [3?] times, instead of [using your example] using a controversy flag to post your own idea, you will have your edit rights temporarily removed" or something? Hopefully that kind of measure won't be needed... I just worry that the visible place where people should just be able to browse for information might turn into a place of back and forth debate instead of keeping the discussion to the discussion page of that tab or the forum post or what ever method ends up being used to discuss articles.

FreelanceWizard FreelanceWizard Find all posts by this user Visit this user's website Random RPer #258 Posts:2,319 Joined:Sep 2010 Character:L'yhta Mahre Linkshell:Mysterium Server:Balmung Reputation: 317 Timezone:UTC-6 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #32 10-02-2014, 01:35 PM Yeah, I envision it working a lot like Wikipedia, minus all massive bureaucracy. If something gets hot and edit warring/revert warring happens, page protection goes on and/or one or more parties get their edit rights revoked in that namespace for a time. The nice part about putting in another namespace is that I can do that using Extension:Lockdown; someone could lose rights there but still have it in the main NS to work on character pages. The Freelance Wizard Quality RP at low, low prices! ((about me | about L'yhta Mahre | L'yhta's desk | about Mysterium, the Ivory Tower: a heavy RP society of mages))

Olofantur Olofantur Find all posts by this user Ancient Amateur Posts:753 Joined:Feb 2013 Character:Quarimar Baenund Server:Balmung Reputation: 61 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #33 10-02-2014, 01:39 PM (This post was last modified: 10-02-2014, 01:39 PM by Olofantur.) (10-02-2014, 01:35 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote: using Extension:Lockdown; someone could lose rights there but still have it in the main NS to work on character pages. Awesome, I was hoping that would be the case.

Maril Maril Find all posts by this user There's a potion for that Posts:1,672 Joined:Oct 2013 Character:Maril Hawker Linkshell:The Matron's Reach Server:Balmung Reputation: 198 Timezone:UTC+2 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #34 10-02-2014, 01:48 PM I made a list-thingy! https://docs.google.com/document/d/17VVf...sp=sharing Editing is on, please edit responsibly! I brainstormed as much as I could. I probably forgot half of everything. Have a looksie and add if you think something is missing. Maril | Tumblr | The Matron's Reach - Collecting healers |

Sounsyy Sounsyy Find all posts by this user Lore Momger Posts:1,987 Joined:Jul 2013 Character:Sounsyy Mirke Server:Balmung Reputation: 854 Timezone:UTC-5 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #35 10-02-2014, 02:43 PM (This post was last modified: 10-02-2014, 03:04 PM by Sounsyy.) (10-02-2014, 01:48 PM)Sastra Wrote: Editing is on, please edit responsibly! I brainstormed as much as I could. I probably forgot half of everything. Have a looksie and add if you think something is missing. Good start to the list! So this is my working outline of my own lore project. Can draw from this, although, I feel like I'm missing a crucial topic as well... I just can't place what it is. Show Content Spoiler Living on a Prayer The Twelve The Primals The Moogles The Twelve Ascians "Paragons" and the Twelve Archons The Void The Age of Man 1 - The Races of Man Elezen Roegadyn Lalafell Miqo’te Hyur Padjal 2 - The Beast Tribes Amalj’aa and Paglth'an Kobold and O'Ghomoro Sahagin and the Coral Tridents and the Scarlet Sea Devil Sylph and Moonspore Grove Ixal and Xelphatol, Tinolqa, and Ayatlan Dragons and the Dravanian Horde Goblins and the Illuminati Qiqirn Gigas Mamool Ja The Eorzean Alliance 1 - Ul’dah Sultans and Sultanas The Syndicate Monetarists vs Royalists The Brotherhood of the Sultansworn The Guilds The Order of Nald’thal Arrzaneth Ossuary Milvaneth Sacrarium Amajina & Sons Mineral Concern The East Aldenard Trading Company The Platinum Mirage The Coliseum Bloodsands Halatali The Immortal Flames Brass Blades Stone Torches General Lore History Religion The Ala Mhigans Relations with the Amalj’aa The Mythril Eye (Newspaper Lore) Ul’dahn Timeline 2 - Limsa Lominsa The Thalassocratic Navy Admirals and the Trident The Pirates The Bloody Executioners The Kraken’s Arms The Sanguine Sirens The Salthounds The Red Swallows The Serpent Reavers The Lominsan Armada Knights of the Barracuda Yellowjackets Squadrons 1-9 The Guilds Marauder 1.0 and 2.0 Melvaan’s Gate (Arcanist) The Coral Tower (Musketeers) The Fraternity (Rogue) The Maelstrom The Crimson Fleet Privateer Levies Uniting the Pirates General Lore History Mythologies Legends of Rycharde Mistbeard/Mimidoa Nanadoa Foreign Relations Friends of 5 Beastmen The Harbor Herald (Newspaper Lore) Limsa Lominsa Timeline 3 - Gridania The Seedseers The Elementals Greenswrath Woodsin Wildlings The Pact of Gelmorra The Padjal The Guilds Stillglade Fane The Wood Wailers The God’s Quiver Atelier Fen-Yll The Twin Adders General Lore History Religion The Hedge Figaga’s Gift Haukke Manor The Autumn War Relations with the Sylphs and Ixal The Raven (Newspaper Lore) Gridanian Timeline The Old City-States 1 - Sharlayan The Circle of Knowing Legacy of Knowledge and Learning Lewphon & Roddard Ironheart The Studium The Students of Baldesion Sons of Saint Coinach General Lore History Culture Legacy Island Sharlayan vs City-state Sharlayan Sharlayan Timeline 2 - Ishgard The Holy See The Azure Dragoons The Noble Houses (Valentione, Dartancours, Dzemael, etc) General Lore History “Dragoons” The Dravanian Horde Religion Closing the Gates Heretics and Cultists The Calamitous Winter Ishgardian Timeline 3 - Ala Mhigo The King of Ruin The Corpse Brigade Order of the Fists of Rhalgr General Lore History Religion The fall of Rhalgr and the rise of Nymeia The Autumn War Civil Unrest The Garlean Occupation Escaping the Wall Ala Mhigans today Ala Mhigo Timeline The Rise of an Empire 1 - Garlemald Emperor Solus zos Galvus The Legatus Ministers and Noble Houses Legacy of Allag Meteor Project and Midas nan Garlond General Lore History Rise to power Discovery of Magitek Since the Calamity Why are they conquering everyone? Hatred of Beastmen and Primals Garlean Timeline The Four Corners of Hydaelyn 1 - Ancient Civilizations Third Astral Era The Allagan Empire Meracydia Fifth Astral Era Amdapor Nym ??? Sixth Astral Era Belah’dia (Old Sharlayan) Sil’dih Gelmorra 2 - Beyond Eorzea Aldenard (Western Great Continent) Eorzea = Aldenard Mainland + surrounding Isles Vylbrand Cieldaeles Mazlaya Bianaq The Pearl Ilsabard (Northern Great Continent) Garlemald Othard (Eastern Great Continent “Far East”) Doma Horses Thavnair (“Near East”) Island between Othard and Aldenard City-state Radz-at-Han The Twelve Zodiac Braves – Thavnairian Legend The New World (Far Western Continent) Far Western Continent Possibly Miqo’te homeland Meracydia (Southern Continent) Seas get warmer the farther south Seas get colder farther north Meaning Eorzea is northern hemisphere at about Tropic of Cancer And Meracydia is southern hemisphere, south of equator to Tropic of Capricorn Ayatlan (The Floating Continent) The Gardens of Xarakish The Floating Lakes of Voor Sian Siran The Great Library The Chocobo Forest Eorzean Geographic Sightseeing Lore Dungeon Lore Holiday/Seasonal Event Lore The Disciples Disciple of War & Magic Lore Disciple of Hand Lore Disciple of Land Lore Job Lore & Relic Weapons/Heroes The Twelve Zodiac Braves Encyclopedia Eorzea 1 - Important People Rowena Minfilia (Ascilla) Warburton and Corguvais F’lhaminn and Niellfresne Archon Louisoux Leveillour Cid nan Garlond Nedrick and Millith Ironheart Baderon Tenfingers Mother Miounne Momodi Gerolt Jalzahn Greinfarr and J’moldva One-Eyed Hyllfyrr of the Bloody Executioners Erik of Ala Mhigo Fye, Khrimm, and Dunstan Gegeruju 2 - Independent Organizations The Path of the Twelve (1.0) The Scions of the Seventh Dawn (2.0) Garlond Ironworks The Company of Heroes The Ashcrown Consortium The Adventurers’ Guild The Seventy-seven Caravans Brugaire Consortium Black Rabbit Traders Baert Trading Company The Homunculi The Laughing Alchemists Zer’maat Five The Lambs of Dalamud The Dreamers The Brotherhood of the Broken Blade Azeyma’s Shields The Horn and Hand Wawalago’s Pullers 3 - Books, Stories, Myths of Eorzea The Five Ages – Lewphon of Sharlayan The Divine Chronicles – Mezaya Thousand Eyes Essences and Permutations Encyclopedia Eorzea – naturalist Marcette Manne The Song of Tristam The Enchiridion Thaumaturges’ Dusty Tomes Trials of the Braves The Raimdelle Codex - Raimdelle 4 - Miscellaneous Facts Measurements Distance Time Weight The Raimdelle Codex Hunt Lore FATE Notorious Monsters Mythical Creatures (Sicksa, Toto-Rak, Bismarck, Atomos, Perykos and Thalaos, Midgardsormr, etc) The Tragic Ride of Ouranos Mount Lore Minion Lore Wawalago’s Pullers Fishing Lore Food Lore Food Ingredients Lore Medicines Lore Housing Items Lore Miscellaneous Item Lore Eorzean Timeline Time of the Twelve Age of Man Astral Eras Umbral Eras Age of Calm – time period in between 1557 and 1562 when Adventurers were formed. 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FreelanceWizard FreelanceWizard Find all posts by this user Visit this user's website Random RPer #258 Posts:2,319 Joined:Sep 2010 Character:L'yhta Mahre Linkshell:Mysterium Server:Balmung Reputation: 317 Timezone:UTC-6 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #36 10-14-2014, 05:58 PM *resurrects thread* RL: Killer of RPC projects. I've created the new namespace and installed the Lockdown extension (so naughty people can get locked out of editing there without also being locked out of editing the rest of the wiki). FlaggedRevs is a bit more complex and has changed a lot since I last worked with it, so I'm going to review whether it or ApprovedRevs (way simpler and something I use professionally all the time) is a better choice. FlaggedRevs does have some cool features for rating the quality of revisions, though. Soon, I'm going to create a basic landing page for the Lore namespace, customize the background of the theme a little so it's clear what namespace you're in, and move the existing lore pages over to that namespace. The Freelance Wizard Quality RP at low, low prices! ((about me | about L'yhta Mahre | L'yhta's desk | about Mysterium, the Ivory Tower: a heavy RP society of mages))

Erik Mynhier Erik Mynhier Find all posts by this user Visit this user's website Captain of the Red Wings Posts:1,587 Joined:Aug 2013 Character:Erik Mynhier Linkshell:The Red Wings Server:Balmung Reputation: 154 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #37 10-14-2014, 08:58 PM (10-14-2014, 05:58 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote: *resurrects thread* RL: Killer of RPC projects. I've created the new namespace and installed the Lockdown extension (so naughty people can get locked out of editing there without also being locked out of editing the rest of the wiki). FlaggedRevs is a bit more complex and has changed a lot since I last worked with it, so I'm going to review whether it or ApprovedRevs (way simpler and something I use professionally all the time) is a better choice. FlaggedRevs does have some cool features for rating the quality of revisions, though. Soon, I'm going to create a basic landing page for the Lore namespace, customize the background of the theme a little so it's clear what namespace you're in, and move the existing lore pages over to that namespace. I have some source material coming to my email, ill pass it around for everyone to use when I get it. The Red Wings ~By Fire Reborn~ Signature by Rhea Zaheela See Our Official Website For More Details

Maril Maril Find all posts by this user There's a potion for that Posts:1,672 Joined:Oct 2013 Character:Maril Hawker Linkshell:The Matron's Reach Server:Balmung Reputation: 198 Timezone:UTC+2 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #38 10-20-2014, 02:24 PM (10-14-2014, 05:58 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote: *resurrects thread* RL: Killer of RPC projects. I've created the new namespace and installed the Lockdown extension (so naughty people can get locked out of editing there without also being locked out of editing the rest of the wiki). FlaggedRevs is a bit more complex and has changed a lot since I last worked with it, so I'm going to review whether it or ApprovedRevs (way simpler and something I use professionally all the time) is a better choice. FlaggedRevs does have some cool features for rating the quality of revisions, though. Soon, I'm going to create a basic landing page for the Lore namespace, customize the background of the theme a little so it's clear what namespace you're in, and move the existing lore pages over to that namespace. Awesome stuff! Maril | Tumblr | The Matron's Reach - Collecting healers |

Obisi Obisi Find all posts by this user Junior Member Posts:11 Joined:Mar 2014 Character:Sirielle Lacoyer Server:Balmung Reputation: 1 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #39 10-22-2014, 03:20 PM I cannot wait to see this.  I have been working really hard on my characters back story and it seems like at every turn I find out that the lore is getting in the way.  Not in a bad way but some things could not have happened, some places didn't exist, that type of thing and having a place to go for all of this in one place would be amazing.  I also agree with others that have said you have to have the 1.0 stuff right along with the 2.0 stuff, because something as simple as being in Bronze Lake can make a huge difference because it didn't exist 5 years ago. I know it would make my mentor very happy because they wouldn't have to always correct me with the lore stuff.  Well maybe, it would also mean I have to read and well, yeah (kinda lazy with that).  But it would be awesome and I can't wait to see it materialize.  Sirielle Lacoyer Wiki

FreelanceWizard FreelanceWizard Find all posts by this user Visit this user's website Random RPer #258 Posts:2,319 Joined:Sep 2010 Character:L'yhta Mahre Linkshell:Mysterium Server:Balmung Reputation: 317 Timezone:UTC-6 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #40 10-28-2014, 04:01 PM So... customizing the Lore namespace's look has proved to be a bit challenging, because our skin (based off Wikia's Monaco) doesn't work like Vector. (Those of you using the tabs extension have noticed how it's not compatible with Monaco either.) I'm starting to poke around at customizing Vector to get it to look like what I want. I'm in the process of moving the existing lore pages over to the new namespace and creating a landing page for them. I've created a new template, {{Refimprove}}, that works like the one of the same name from Wikipedia and is used to indicate more sources are needed. I'll be adding everyone's favorite, {{Citation-needed}}, and other similar templates in the near future. We already have a {{Speculation}} template, it seems, that I created. (Who knew? ) Finally, I think Flagged Revs is pretty much exactly what we need. People can write lore pages, then others can come in and rate them on different axes (right now, I'm planning on accuracy, depth, tone, and sourcing). That way, people can see which articles are good and which need help. Initially, my thought was to give everyone that right, but now I'm thinking that we may want to restrict it based on good wiki stewardship, such as number of edit comments, days registered, and number of content edits. Thoughts? EDIT: I've also changed the wiki search engine from the built-in one to SphinxSearch. This should improve both the speed of search and the quality of results. Unfortunately, auto-complete on search only sorta works with SphinxSearch in the Monaco skin. *boggles* EDIT 2: You can see what Flagged Revs does to a page here: http://wiki.ffxiv-roleplayers.com/pages/Lore:Timeline The Freelance Wizard Quality RP at low, low prices! ((about me | about L'yhta Mahre | L'yhta's desk | about Mysterium, the Ivory Tower: a heavy RP society of mages))

FreelanceWizard FreelanceWizard Find all posts by this user Visit this user's website Random RPer #258 Posts:2,319 Joined:Sep 2010 Character:L'yhta Mahre Linkshell:Mysterium Server:Balmung Reputation: 317 Timezone:UTC-6 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #41 10-29-2014, 04:38 PM The Vector skin modifications are chugging along. I need to pull some images together for backgrounds and adjust the main logo size, as well as putting a horizontal limit on the main display area, but the basic pieces are there. (http://wiki.ffxiv-roleplayers.com/pages/...kin=vector shows a lore page using this skin with its modifications, if you're interested. I'm not sold on the background color. ) The Freelance Wizard Quality RP at low, low prices! ((about me | about L'yhta Mahre | L'yhta's desk | about Mysterium, the Ivory Tower: a heavy RP society of mages))

Olofantur Olofantur Find all posts by this user Ancient Amateur Posts:753 Joined:Feb 2013 Character:Quarimar Baenund Server:Balmung Reputation: 61 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #42 10-29-2014, 05:17 PM (10-29-2014, 04:38 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote: The Vector skin modifications are chugging along. I need to pull some images together for backgrounds and adjust the main logo size, as well as putting a horizontal limit on the main display area, but the basic pieces are there. (http://wiki.ffxiv-roleplayers.com/pages/...kin=vector shows a lore page using this skin with its modifications, if you're interested. I'm not sold on the background color. ) By the twelve that is a blinding shade of pink, is their not a soft blue or purple you can use instead? colour aside thats a great tag.

FreelanceWizard FreelanceWizard Find all posts by this user Visit this user's website Random RPer #258 Posts:2,319 Joined:Sep 2010 Character:L'yhta Mahre Linkshell:Mysterium Server:Balmung Reputation: 317 Timezone:UTC-6 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #43 10-29-2014, 05:24 PM Yeah, it's rather... aggressive. I really chose the color for testing purposes so it'd stand out. I'm thinking probably something closer to a greyish blue (#c6d9e7 or #c2e1f8) or lavender (#d6c6e1), but I'm open to suggestions. The Freelance Wizard Quality RP at low, low prices! ((about me | about L'yhta Mahre | L'yhta's desk | about Mysterium, the Ivory Tower: a heavy RP society of mages))

TheWizard TheWizard Find all posts by this user The Combat Engineer Posts:193 Joined:Jan 2014 Character:Aurelia Domna Linkshell:None Server:Balmung Reputation: 11 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #44 10-29-2014, 05:42 PM I'm willing to donate my time to any area needed. I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me. Valthoran Windwyrd / Aurelia Domna / Merri Renalah / Haihane Shiranui / Byron Mercer / Ansathota Nortisilwyn

FreelanceWizard FreelanceWizard Find all posts by this user Visit this user's website Random RPer #258 Posts:2,319 Joined:Sep 2010 Character:L'yhta Mahre Linkshell:Mysterium Server:Balmung Reputation: 317 Timezone:UTC-6 RE: WikiLore planning and discussion | #45 10-30-2014, 12:30 PM This is only tangentially related to lore, but... The Vector skin modifications are complete (huzzah for CSS3!). I've tested in IE 11 and Chrome Whatever-The-Latest-Version-Is; I'm pretty sure the new skin doesn't work in versions of IE earlier than 11 because of the use of border-image and some other cool bits that kept me from having to alter the actual skin files. This means that we can now freely upgrade MediaWiki versions without stuff blowing up, and it sets us up for VisualEditor once it becomes generally available. If you want to see the new look and comment while it's "in beta," log into the wiki, click on Preferences in the upper-right corner, click on Appearance, then choose "Vector" from the skin list and click Save. Note that not all toolbar items from the current skin are in Vector's toolbar, but I'll be adding those shortly. I do intend to add Extension:MobileFrontend to the wiki soon to help with viewing it on phones. I, at least, often use my phone to skim wiki entries while playing, and I expect others might as well; Vector is pretty rough on mobile devices. As for the actual lore stuff, reviewers? Anyone? Do we need them? Who wants to be one? Who wants to wrangle people into doing stuff? A lot of people were enthusiastic about this project -- where'd you all go? The Freelance Wizard Quality RP at low, low prices! ((about me | about L'yhta Mahre | L'yhta's desk | about Mysterium, the Ivory Tower: a heavy RP society of mages))

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