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K'nahli · **07-23-2013, 06:40 PM**

Awesome work! *-* And thank you so, very much for including K'yohko. That was very considerate >w<

Quoting Naunet since I pushed his tree to the previous page:

Quote:Okay, a very rough draft of a tentative family tree - photos included where I could find them.

R'aqsha would fit in the same generation as K'airi, K'airos, and K'aijeen, and would be the second nunh alongside K'yohko (who sired Wolf and Clover's characters). These are miqo'te in their 20s or 30s. There are a lot of gaps where I'm not sure where we want to connect characters and/or fill in places with additional PCs/NPCs. R'aqsha, I'd very much appreciate input regarding your character's family history as it could fit into this tree!

Also, anyone else please provide feedback. xD

Khaze'to Zhwan · **07-23-2013, 06:41 PM**

(07-23-2013, 06:36 PM)Naunet Wrote: Okay, a very rough draft of a tentative family tree - photos included where I could find them.

R'aqsha would fit in the same generation as K'airi, K'airos, and K'aijeen, and would be the second nunh alongside K'yohko (who sired Wolf and Clover's characters). These are miqo'te in their 20s or 30s. There are a lot of gaps where I'm not sure where we want to connect characters and/or fill in places with additional PCs/NPCs. R'aqsha, I'd very much appreciate input regarding your character's family history as it could fit into this tree!

Also, anyone else please provide feedback. xD

Thats looking nice, I have my family worked out if you want the pics and names?

Also seeing where Antimony fits now makes more sense.

Naunet · **07-23-2013, 06:41 PM**

(07-23-2013, 06:40 PM)Wolf Wrote: Awesome work! *-* And thank you so, very much for including K'yohko. That was very considerate >w<

Do you have any preference as to K'yohko's family history, or can I just connect him to whoever?

(07-23-2013, 06:41 PM)Khaze Wrote: Thats looking nice, I have my family worked out if you want the pics and names?

Also seeing where Antimony fits now makes more sense.

Ooh if you have stuff, do provide! Big Grin

Â And I will get them in. It's easy to move stuff around to make room for more people because I've got everything on its own layer in PSE10 haha.

K'nahli · **07-23-2013, 06:47 PM**

(07-23-2013, 06:41 PM)Naunet Wrote:
(07-23-2013, 06:40 PM)Wolf Wrote: Awesome work! *-* And thank you so, very much for including K'yohko. That was very considerate >w<

Do you have any preference as to K'yohko's family history, or can I just connect him to whoever?

Admittedly I am leaving important details like that to Clover since I am completely new to this but I don't think she would mind so long as she could choose her own mother(?) In any case she won't be able to reply until tomorrow, sorry ;;

Khaze'to Zhwan · **07-23-2013, 06:53 PM**

Ok so the family goesÂ

Grandfather and grandmother don't have names yet.

Okhi'a Epocan Khaze'to's father, Mate of Khaze Zhwan
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Tyakha Zhwan, eldest child
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Khaze'a Zhwan, 2nd child
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Then Khaze'to Zhwan

then we have Khaze'tp's two younger sisters who don't have names yet.Â
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andÂ

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If anyone can come up with names or wants to RP a member of the family let me know. Also the reason Khaze'to looks older than Tyakha and Khaze'a is because I'm playing it as they got time jumped and that's how they look in his head.

Naunet · **07-23-2013, 06:59 PM**

(07-23-2013, 06:47 PM)Wolf Wrote: Admittedly I am leaving important details like that to Clover since I am completely new to this but I don't think she would mind so long as she could choose her own mother(?) In any case she won't be able to reply until tomorrow, sorry ;;

No rush - we have all the time in the world. Smile

Â I look forward to hearing from her!

@Khaze'to: Awesome, thank you! I'll get them filled in! It's interesting to have a connection to Keepers in this family (and kind of funny how the K connection carries over in the names), even if it is distant.

Khaze'to Zhwan · **07-23-2013, 07:01 PM**

I know right, its part of what makes the idea so appealing to me having this extra link to my background. Â As to the names its just kinda happened but they all have K in there right Big Grin

K'nahli · **07-23-2013, 07:11 PM**

If I may add, part of my character's background involved her stumbling across a young Tia(20-25) practicing with his bow outside of the village. She would go and watch him almost every day until he finally offered to train her with it once she got a little older. Archery became her passion, though the Tia died many years later. Do you think this would be okay?

It's nothing too significant to anyone other than my character but I am asking since you said females do most of the hunting with only a few exceptions existing... and I just want to be safe so as to not go against anything the tribe's customs or history.

Ildur · **07-23-2013, 07:14 PM**

As K'airos Thalen's player, I approve of this connections: RP will spring naturally from them!

Someone mentioned the tribe's leadership. I'm not sure how Seeker tribes work hierarchicaly, but I'd assume the nunhs, being the strongest/most capable members of the tribe, probably form a council of sorts, with the elders working as councelors.
But, whatever the leadership will be, I suggest we keep them as offscreen NPCs and just decide their 'orders' or overall goals OOCly. Bringing the tribe back together after the Calamity seems to be a good starting point, and it gives those who want to play characters with the tribal ties intact a reason to seek the other members and interact with them.

Also, Wolf, I don't see any problem with that little detail on your backstory.

Naunet · **07-23-2013, 07:18 PM**

(07-23-2013, 07:14 PM)Ildur Wrote: Someone mentioned the tribe's leadership. I'm not sure how Seeker tribes work hierarchicaly, but I'd assume the nunhs, being the strongest/most capable members of the tribe, probably form a council of sorts, with the elders working as councelors.

Actually, according to lore, nunhs are very rarely tribe leaders. I was imagining some kind of matriarch position, though that might be more appropriate for Keeper culture. Considering the likely communal raising dynamics within a Seeker tribe (since only a couple guys are mating with a bunch of women), the council thing may be more likely but it could include elder members of the tribe regardless of gender (including supplanted nunhs that are too old to mate, elder females, and elder tias).

K'nahli · **07-23-2013, 07:27 PM**

That sounds great. It will be interesting to see what direction we will take based on what the elders have to say, especially if there are disagreements among them.

Since people are posting(this is aimed at Naunet in particular), do you have any other ideas or pieces of information regarding the tribe that can help us string our own stories together? Like, for example:

What do Miqo'tes hunt?
Do they have schooling/teaching of any kind?
If so, what does it involve?
What happens in daily Miqo'te life?

Nothing too important but I believe them to be handy, particularly the last three.

growly beast · **07-23-2013, 08:14 PM**

Okay! Just got home from work, so now I have time to have a look at the tree and try to put myself in somewhere.

I have a question, though, and if nobody's for it that would be totally okay. But I was wondering if you guys would consider using R?

I know the poll says K, but I just wanted to make sure - I'm having trouble finding a good name. (K'aqsha has an... unfortunate sound, hahaha). People already acquainted with the character have prodded me to ask about keeping it. So, just leaving that out there, if you guys would consider it! If not that's cool.

Okay, back to messing with this tree.

Also - do you guys have skype? It might be useful to talk about this in some kind of real-time chat, as opposed to forums.

growly beast · **07-23-2013, 08:34 PM**

One more thing - I found a family tree generator tool that might help us?

http://www.familyecho.com/

Naunet · **07-23-2013, 08:43 PM**

(07-23-2013, 08:14 PM)growly beast Wrote: I have a question, though, and if nobody's for it that would be totally okay. But I was wondering if you guys would consider using R?

I know the poll says K, but I just wanted to make sure - I'm having trouble finding a good name. (K'aqsha has an... unfortunate sound, hahaha). People already acquainted with the character have prodded me to ask about keeping it. So, just leaving that out there, if you guys would consider it! If not that's cool.

Regarding the name, I'm pretty attached to the K syllable to be honest. That said, I totally understand your reluctance to change (and the unfortunate sound of K'aqsha!), as names are very personal things. I'd love it if you did switch, but if not, we may be able to come up with another way to intertwine the K and R tribes of the Sagolii desert as far as RP goes. So, we'd be happy to have you, but don't feel pressured, is all I'm saying. Smile

I do have skype, if ya'll want to chat in a more real-time setting as suggested. Just add Netnau.

As for Wolf's questions...

1. Hunting targets would be based around what's available in the desert. I did some running around in the Sagolii desert in phase 3 and saw, perhaps most notably, a startling abundance of sandworms. I actually incorporated sandworm hunts in part of my character's backstory (tangentially - I mentioned it as something the tribe targets for meat, but they're also very dangerous). I remember there being a couple other distinct types of creatures, but I can't recall their names. Unless someone else can call them up on memory, we may need to wait until phase 4 opens up before we can solidify what exactly they hunt.

2. Children I think would have two options for education: either they strike out on their own to a city to receive formal schooling at an institution, or they stay with the tribe. Education in the tribe is probably handled in a team system, with elders and more experienced adults taking turns with groups of kids to instruct them on various topics. In Antimony's backstory, I mentioned that the huntresses of the tribe would regularly take young children with them on hunts. A similar strategy would be used when teaching them other basic things, including reading and writing, as well as tradecrafts needed by the tribe to support itself. So education wouldn't be the responsibility of a single individual, but rather a whole range of tribe members experienced in a variety of topics. If that makes sense. xD

3. Oops, see above!

4. I think this would depend on the level of interaction the tribe has with the rest of the world. Obviously there are basic activities of survival - the hunting and gathering of foodstuffs and water, caring for children and sick/elderly, crafting and repairing clothing and weapons and tools and housing materials, etc. I wonder if the tribe has a few, skilled individuals who regularly travel across the desert to more populous towns in Thanalan to trade skillfully crafted items, or materials only found in the desert, or whathaveyou for special foods or trinkets or other luxuries the tribe occasionally enjoys. Maybe? xD Clearly living a nomadic life in the Sagolii desert means you're not interacting with the outside world a lot, but I think it makes sense that they would be connected in some fashion, likely as merchants, and occasionally as hunters plying their skill on the warfront, to return to their tribe as military heroes (or in body bags).

These are just some random thoughts haha.

(07-23-2013, 08:34 PM)growly beast Wrote: One more thing - I found a family tree generator tool that might help us?

http://www.familyecho.com/

Oh my gosh, this is amazing! I'm playing with it now. I kind of like having the pictures, but this is interesting!

[edit] Hmmm it seems to not be very amenable to adding multiple partners to an individual (i.e. a nunh and his multiple mates). Boo.

growly beast · **07-23-2013, 09:08 PM**

It's cool! I'll just stick with K' then. :3 Rocky will be officially K'araqi now! So he can keep his Rocky nickname, obvi.

So, I realized you could save and link to family trees with this site. Here's the URL of the K tribe thus far. I'm trying to figure out how to make connections with some people, but we'll see.

http://www.familyecho.com/?p=BJN5A&c=63i...8309969574

Poll: What Tribe would you like the most? You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
C	4.88%	2	4.88%
X	7.32%	3	7.32%
W	19.51%	8	19.51%
L	17.07%	7	17.07%
P	7.32%	3	7.32%
K	34.15%	14	34.15%
R	9.76%	4	9.76%
Total		41 vote(s)	100%

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