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Oscare · **10-13-2014, 11:22 PM**

The only self doubt Oscare carries (and he will NEVER show it without a fight) is sexual doubt. Oscare firmly believes that on both a romantic and sexual level, he is incredibly undesirable. He always keeps this 'fact' in the back of his head, which is why the poor guy is as emotional as a rock. He has way too much esteem to compensate his something.

He's just that socially inept and emotionally unstable to think anyone thinks or sees him that way. Poor doof.

Chillsmack · **10-13-2014, 11:59 PM**

Doendraga is a virile, charming buccaneer who "port hops" as often as he bar hops: he loves strong drink and he loves less-than-modest company. The man leads a life that prevents him from settling down in one place for long, so why think he can settle down with one person?

To hear him describe his views on sex would be to subject you to crude, yet strangely illuminating, "pirate's wit" that would last maybe a few sentences at best. But if you want to dig into his character development from a psychoanalytical third-person...*stretches the typing fingers*...

Doendraga is highly objective beneath his seemingly care-free exterior, and his views on sexuality and the actual act of sex reflect this perspective just as it paints his personality (he is so objective and detached from things that he is borderline-nihilistic, but that same nihilism ironically leads him to be hedonistic rather than...you know...emo lol). As such, ERP - if and when it comes up - is a natural expression of his characterization, though he is really the only character I have who is more suited to a lifestyle of casual flirting and sex. He's a charismatic, rough-around-the-edges swashbuckler with a loose recognition of social norms which is a personality that lends poorly to celibacy, so not exploring his physical attractions and the culminations of his charms would close off a part of his psyche that can inspire a great many other developments both internal and external.

From within the mind of the character, the assignment of symbols and meaning to sex is something that is constructed by society. Sex is natural - almost reflexive- and thus sexual behavior of any kind is acceptable, which makes it practically ubiquitous, and in that ubiquity it is meaningless...at least for someone like Doendraga it most certainly is: he is more likely to have casual sex than truly intimate moments, and beyond that sexual "arrangements" rather than committed relationships. Even something as non-physical as flirting is largely harmless in his eyes, which is also why he is an opportunistic flirt (it doesn't mean anything, and so he can and will do it just for the sheer pleasure of it).

Ultimately, if he feels like giving it up, he will, and if you feel like it, he thinks you should too.Â
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Because he doesn't invest specific meaning in sex, he is open-minded in the act itself: he's not shy about making his intentions or desires known, whether that is for or against a physical encounter (he is still, after all, a man of discerning tastes), and regardless of how an encounter ends - and regardless of the details of who was was in what position - it, again, doesn't meanÂ anything. What he wants, he does, and in that aspect he is always the dominant one regardless of whether he chose to play the aggressive or the passive party. His tastes are never static.

Centering his perspective around the meaningless of sex and the fulfillment of carnal desires that are wholly natural, he sees relationshipsÂ as the complicated element of social interaction, rather than sex. He is far more comfortable in bed with a stranger than he is with a romantic interest who wants to share their feelings. Any romantic gestures from Doendraga are, in fact, for the fun of the moment not the desire to cement something for the future, and anyone struck by how charming he might seem should be wary about looking too deep: he may "love" you, but it's a shallow love at best.

The way he sees it, either of you can be dead tomorrow.

Oyuu · **10-14-2014, 01:31 AM**

Hi all, just like to say this thread has been an interesting read and good job keeping it on track! Thought I'd put my two cents in.

Onua is demisexual. He would love a person for the way they act and who they are beyond appearances, genders, race etc. He can only see himself wanting to have sex if it was someone he loved deeply and feel very connected to, and the act would be something very intimate and private. He would aim to please his partner rather than himself, as he sees himself as a giver more than a receiver. It would be very sweet and there would be lots of flowers blooming and birds singing and a fade to black. Since the act itself isn't really his thing, I don't see why I would need to RP it, so I would just focus on the emotions involved rather the er doing.Â In regards to other people's sexuality, he doesn't really give a toss. He's met all sorts of characters in Ul'dah and from what he's experienced their sexual preference and activity isn't the most important thing to be worried about... Â Â

OOC I've never ERP'd before and I'm not really looking to ERP either, on Onua especially. But I guess if it happens it happens, as long as it's IC, adds something to my and my partner's characters' story and the experience itself is enjoyable, instead of awkward and embarassing...Â I'd never look down on someone who is all about ERP, or isn't about it at all. I've roleplayed with courtseans, tavern flirts to innocent virgins and they've all been fun and that's what I'm all about.

Kellach Woods · **10-14-2014, 08:01 AM**

I dunno why everyone's giving their opinion on ERP still we had like another thread to do that. Let consenting adults do whatevs, and laugh at the hilarious MTs (though not at the person who made them!), such as an incident last night where someone allegedly MTd futa ERP in a Hunt LS.

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Kell's thoughts on the subject are, as many would guess, confused. It didn't take him very long to figure out he was pretty much attracted to everything and everyone. Since he wasn't the one to take up the farm, he was pretty much free to do whatever, and that also included choice in partner. The confusion doesn't stem from there, but rather from inexperience and not knowing if that type of thing is accepted or even tolerated in Eorzea. At least, at first, he's since then learned that nobody cares.

He's also figured out that if anyone he found attractive were to seduce him, he wouldn't say no. However, he wouldn't actively seduce anyone, instead relying more on his feelings to guide him when with anyone else. If he feels that they should be doin' it, then he'll probably ask, if not then it won't be him that brings it up.

Don't mistake him for someone who'd be shocked by PDAs or even lewdness. He's made some lewd comments before, and shows a general understanding of how it works.

Melodia · **10-14-2014, 08:19 AM**

Speaking from Melodia's perspective, I would say it has a fairly big role. She's a bit promiscuous ICly and though she wants to settle down she enjoys being a sexually active single woman. She's never had the time to enjoy being with someone when she was a teen and is in a way, free for the first time and enjoys that.

That said, she's also highly against prostitution as she views it akin to a mild form of slavery. So for her view sex is a very blurred but acceptable line so far as it's between consenting adults.

Yeah she's a bit of a hypocrite. Tongue

Emeraven · **10-14-2014, 09:39 PM**

(10-13-2014, 05:22 AM)Kyatai Wrote:
(10-12-2014, 11:10 PM)Emeraven Wrote: Eorsza, seems like a place where the historical prejudice of our own, world isn't apparent in this land. But I havent as yet, seen NPCS who have alternative sexuality.
Go to the Observatorium and listen to the two Elezen on the bunk beds' conversation.

Thank you for pointing this out and also thanks toÂ ArmachiAÂ , I am very grateful that they made that choice with the culture of the Eorza

Kailia · **10-14-2014, 09:59 PM**

Well lets see, I started out in a traditional Tribe RP for K'ailia, which definitely involved a Nuhn, Tia's, and sex. One of the reasons my character is no longer part of the tribe was because of her fear of sex, and a fellow tribe mates stance with her about mating.

The irony though, months after her exile, she ended up being courted by a male miqo'te, and is now engaged to be married when the marriage system comes in. However, she's still got an adventurous spirit, she wants to see new places, experience new things, so even though sex is part of marriage, she does not want to get pregnant.

But sex is part of the world, and given her tribal background, sex is a part of her story.

Jaliqai · **10-14-2014, 10:29 PM**

Similarly to some others in the thread, Xheja very much views sex as something to be used as a tool. As a manipulator-type, she knows that there is definitely a good deal of influence in sexuality, and she isn't afraid to flaunt that if she feels like going such a route will get her from point A to point B. But with that being said, if she sees no value in gaining favor with the person for whatever reason, her willingness to participate in any kind of sexual activity with them is nonexistent and she can be downright frigid.

Likewise, in terms of sexual preference, whether a partner is a man or a woman is ultimately irrelevant to her. Coming from a highly female-populated Keeper tribe, bisexuality and homosexuality amongst the females of her tribe was somewhat normal. So, Xheja tends to not use a person's sex as an overriding determining factor of sexual attraction, though she does tend to lean towards males over females. Likewise, others' sexualities tend to phase her very little, though male homosexuality sometimes intrigues her as it was rather uncommon in her upbringing (though still not taboo, given that the males in question were still willing to procreate in the interests of perpetuating the tribe).

The dominance factor of sexuality is something else that she tends to be very flexible with, depending on how she.. 'feels out' what a partner wants from an encounter, for lack of better phrasing. It's all about manipulation and wrapping others around her fingers, so whether she accomplishes that by being more aggressive or passive, submissive or dominant, etc. is ultimately situational. Left to her own devices though? She tends to be more of an aggressive submissive. (Which makes sense to me, but not sure if it makes sense to anyone else, haha.)

Finally, the matter of sexuality and emotion.. For Xheja, the two are absolutely and utterly separate. That said, though she is currently unable to really have any kind of true emotional connection to anyone, she does occasionally experience actual physical and sexual attraction to others if she deems them interesting enough for her. Though her criteria for what counts as 'interesting' tends to lean more towards the intellectual and charming, rather than purely on looks alone. So even if she does feel a sexual attraction to someone, it is highly, highlyÂ unlikely that there is any emotional attachment behind it. As such, concepts like romance and monogamy aren't important to her.

CalebAgron · **10-15-2014, 03:21 AM**

Humm I need to keep up with these forums more often, glad this has been kept civil and mature. So Sex and my character/roleplay, alright I'll share my and Caleb's views.

Caleb's:
For starters Caleb is a sexual person, though not to the extent that Berrod is. He enjoys sex and thinks its a completely natural way to express how you feel about someone. His sexuality isn't limited to one way or the other, he swings both ways and enjoys both the female and male forms, though his tastes in the sexes differ greatly.

With males he prefers those who can challenge him physically, enjoying the struggle for dominance, which is why he and Berrod have such a good time in the sheets. As Berrod mentioned their sexualities are very alike in regards to dominance so it's a clash of the titans both in and out of bed. And while neither like being dominated, it somehow works out for them in a natural 50/50 way.

With females he enjoys the chase, preferring those who are shy/quiet and make him work for their attention. Blond's in particular catch his eye, though none of these preferences has prevented him from appreciating females who don't fit any of the above descriptions.

As mentioned before his character is not as driven by sex as Berrod is, but he is a man and he has needs. Now if only he could find some shame! Laugh

Mine:
So my views on ERP have evolved over the years and games, it's actually interesting now that I think of it. I started roleplaying way back in my World of Warcraft years as a female human mage. The focus of my roleplay tended to be more battle/story oriented and I don't think my character was ever approached in a relationship way. At least I can't remember her being approached.

Then there was City of Heroes /City of Villains (Amazing game and I hope the talk of them bringing it back or giving it a reboot is true! would be a fun "off game" to this one!) Again much like WoW it was more super hero focused, though I did explore the friendship stuff a little more in depth.

From there I went to Star Wars TOR, this is where my RP skills were really pushed and improved by a guild called The Republic Order. Shout out to my TOR friends! This group really helped me develop my RP skills and this is where my character really got into the more friendship driven RP.

Though as a Jedi, she was very non sexual because of obvious reasons! Really miss the game...well not the game so much as my old RP buddies Sad

, wish I could convince them to come to FF!

Then there was FF that again pushed me to improve my RP skills (that can always use improvement). I found a great group or roleplayers, started roleplaying and Caleb's relationship with Berrod just sort of happened. I'm now old enough and mature enough to appreciate the finer points of RP and view ERP as just another extension of character depth.

I think it adds something to a character that you can't get otherwise, though I understand and respect others decision to not partake in it. I also understand that people who "RP" solely for ERP ends aren't actually roleplaying, they are cybering and those are two very different things.

Lyon · **10-15-2014, 12:36 PM**

This has been a really interesting read and I'll add my opinion (and Lyon's) in as well.

I imagine this is one of those subjects where people have a hard time telling between IC and OOC feelings because of how intimate a subject like sex can be for people. I don't look down on ERP and I don't even mind people who make characters to that end, as someone had already pointed out, if two people are willing and eager to do it in privacy then I'm not one to judge.

Lyon is a bit of a naive person with a very basic understanding of society and people in general. She actually had an encounter with a prostitute and found the whole idea of it vaguely glamourous and exciting, however when it comes to sex itself Lyon is obviously inexperienced and thus doesn't feel confident sexually. When she was 'hit on' by another character she tried to give the illusion of confidence by playing along but was actually covering for her own insecurity. Lyon doesn't have a 'type' and is very much more personality focused but may not be opposed to a one night stand or something similar if the situation was right.

Speaking OOC again, I'm not opposed to having an RP relationship with someone else, provided it makes logical sense for the character. In terms of engaging with ERP itself, I could see myself taking part to the extent that it continues to forward the character but if it just comes down to the gritty details I would then opt for a 'fade to black'.

It's one of the more interesting subjects of RP that's for sure.

Jazz Egi · **10-15-2014, 10:12 PM**

I personally have no problems with sex scenes in RP. After all, explicit scenes find their way into many genres and sex itself adds an extra layer to social dynamics.

That said, Weaver is a pure maiden who is too awkward to ever seal the deal.

Star Lin · **10-15-2014, 11:20 PM**

Hm, that is and interesting question.Â For me, I did dabble on a certain server in WOW that was big on the EPERs, though I did stay on it long enough to get into some of the heavier/weirder stuff that I hear goes on there.Â I'm more of the type that if the story heads that way and both myself and the other player agree to go for the Home Run so to speak that that fine.Â If the other player whats just a fade to black, I'm fine with it too.Â As for my two characters that I play on Balmung, I'm keeping them down the middle on their sexuality.

Kestlona Guhtegeiswyn: She's grew up running around Limsa Lominsa so she has seen what sex looks like from running through those dark alleyways.Â Since she still new in Uld'ah she hasn't made many connection through either the miners' guild or Adventurer's guild.Â However it plays out from interaction with other characters will be determined by the story.

John Waterstrike: He might look like he's from the keeper but he was raised by a Hyur couple and had something of a shelter life.Â He going to be looking more for his own identity, so part of it will be experimenting in sex through in my head, I thinking about having him lean more toward being attractive to males.Â Again, it will only go as far as the other player wants as well.Â First, I should get him out of Limsa so he can actually start meeting people.

So any guys that happen to be in Limsa that see a Keeper of the moon giving you shy glances over his book or from under his fishing hat, it just my Miqo'te.

DreamedReality · **10-16-2014, 05:12 PM**

Since I do enjoy romantic/couple roleplay (which does include sex) I do make preferences for the characters I make. I also believe that a person's sexual identity and their sexual preferences colour how they interact with others. So it is a valid form of character development for me. While I don't really expect a relationship to happen I like to have a good idea of how one can develop with whatever character I make and actually RP out that development.

For example:

Jaques is bi with a strong preference for woman.
He identifies completely as male and is fairly comfortable with his body.
He is picky in terms of race. He flat out is not attracted to roegadyn males, lalafell, miqo'te, or midlanders. It's a size thing mainly.
Is not promiscuous. He can count the number of partner's he's had on one hand.
He is monogamous.
He is dominant.
He prefers confident partners. (This is a bit of a sticking point for his current relationship.)

So that is the the filter I had in place for Jaques. Just so happened that Vaughn fit into his preferences nicely -and- they both have the patience to work through each others' backstory drama.

As far as sex in this relationship goes... they are both active males in their prime. And they both use sex to fill in for 'x' vice indulgence. For Jaques it's his alcoholism. So this has been a detriment as they will put off tasks and work for sex. Once one starts the other has a hard time saying no.

And the whole actual ERP thing? I have no real preference myself beyond that whatever relationship our character's have... it -has- to involve more than just sex scenes. I leave it to my RP partner to draw the line when such scenes crop up.

TheLastCandle · **10-24-2014, 08:44 PM**

Well, this was lovely. Show's over, folks!

TheShii · **10-24-2014, 09:00 PM**

I feel sexuality shouldn't ever really be a taboo subject. Whether it's with porn, an erp'er, or just a casual aspect like any other aspect of someone's rp. I myself don't rp sexual things often enough to even be considered by most to be into that sort of rp to begin with, and I've been told that sometimes my characters in mmo's tend to come off a bit asexual in nature haha

Either way I view sex in rp like how I view everything else. Conflict, violence, death, love, rivalry.. so on. Get certain ingredients into a pot and you get a certain flavor, viola.

As far as my main goes, Eshkin is an adult male and wouldn't be adverse to sexual relations, nor is he odd towards it. I've used it as a sort of bit of side spice, staying the night with a stranger (npc) for the night to pass the time, flirting with an attractive individual... so on. It's not his main aspect, nor is it a obnoxiously huge aspect of him, but it's about as prominent as rp'ing everyday things like background noise or getting involved with another character that flips the right switches.

Last chance I got to rp him, he was picked up by a lallafel severely wounded out in a barren snow ridden wilderness and he was still recuperating when I had to take a long break from ff, there never really was any chance for any sort of romantic or sexual interaction with other characters lol It's just the vibe I get from him.

Poll: Does Sex Have a Place in Your Roleplay? You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
Yes	88.80%	111	88.80%
No	11.20%	14	11.20%
Total		125 vote(s)	100%

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