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Spoiler tags please!
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(06-16-2017, 11:13 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: Apparently SE doesn't want any screenshots of Stormblood until it releases on Tuesday, so you may want to remove that.

Should there be a big Mod Post about that if that's the case? Make sure everyone knows not to take and post screenies until Tuesday?

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RE: RDM Lore Hypotheses and Discussion |
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06-16-2017, 11:32 AM
(06-16-2017, 11:13 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: Apparently SE doesn't want any screenshots of Stormblood until it releases on Tuesday, so you may want to remove that.
Ah, ok. =x

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RE: RDM Lore Hypotheses and Discussion |
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(06-16-2017, 11:28 AM)Gegenji Wrote:
(06-16-2017, 11:13 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: Apparently SE doesn't want any screenshots of Stormblood until it releases on Tuesday, so you may want to remove that.

Should there be a big Mod Post about that if that's the case? Make sure everyone knows not to take and post screenies until Tuesday?

It was a request, not a desist. The only thing that they directly stated was against the TOS was datamining. They just don't want people casually spoiling the MSQ and such for others -- so spoilers should do the trick, imo.


Edit: actual wording:

Quote:For the benefit of those who will begin their adventures anew on the official release, we ask that players participating in early access refrain from posting messages, pictures, or videos containing spoilers to the official forums, the lodestone, and other social media websites.

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06-16-2017, 11:36 AM
Fair enough. I was just figuring if it was a thing, then it probably would be good to give it a bit more visibility to avoid problems during early access.

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06-16-2017, 12:24 PM
At least it sounds like we can get the big takeaway that the job isn't gonna be another WoL-locked one.

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06-16-2017, 04:37 PM
Exactly ^, according to just the first couple quests, it seems like anyone can just pick up on red magic. I wonder if Alisae even needed to get a soul stone or ask for one just to learn the abilities of a red mage or the trainer just tutored her regardless. He made it sound like it's his sworn duty to teach those who want to learn it no matter what. So I guess whether or not you have a soul stone(and even if you need one, it seems like), you can just become a red mage and that's that lol.

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(06-16-2017, 04:37 PM)Valic Wrote: Exactly ^, according to just the first couple quests, it seems like anyone can just pick up on red magic. I wonder if Alisae even needed to get a soul stone or ask for one just to learn the abilities of a red mage or the trainer just tutored her regardless. He made it sound like it's his sworn duty to teach those who want to learn it no matter what. So I guess whether or not you have a soul stone(and even if you need one, it seems like), you can just become a red mage and that's that lol.

I like this. Maybe he wants to rebuild the order.
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06-16-2017, 06:51 PM
Per the RPC's spoiler policy, spoilers are okay as long as they're tagged and hidden.
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(06-16-2017, 04:39 PM)Crystal Chronicler Wrote:
(06-16-2017, 04:37 PM)Valic Wrote: Exactly ^, according to just the first couple quests, it seems like anyone can just pick up on red magic. I wonder if Alisae even needed to get a soul stone or ask for one just to learn the abilities of a red mage or the trainer just tutored her regardless. He made it sound like it's his sworn duty to teach those who want to learn it no matter what. So I guess whether or not you have a soul stone(and even if you need one, it seems like), you can just become a red mage and that's that lol.

I like this. Maybe he wants to rebuild the order.
Honestly, considering the amount of times he's said Crimson Duelist, I truly wonder what the title will be for this class Dodgy... Jokes aside, I adore this too. Though I'm still hoping they indulge further into what exactly red magic as a discipline is to involve rapiers or how wielding swords makes their magic so good. I took what they said so far to mean they build on their physique to enhance their natural born mana pools rather than just using ambient aether to make up for what a commoner lacks in power. Otherwise... I don't have the slightest clue so far what separates their discipline from other basic ones. Considering Conjury/Thaumaturgy originally drew from their own mana pools iirc.

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(06-16-2017, 06:52 PM)Valic Wrote: Honestly, considering the amount of times he's said Crimson Duelist, I truly wonder what the title will be for this class Dodgy... Jokes aside, I adore this too. Though I'm still hoping they indulge further into what exactly red magic as a discipline is to involve rapiers or how wielding swords makes their magic so good. I took what they said so far to mean they build on their physique to enhance their natural born mana pools rather than just using ambient aether to make up for what a commoner lacks in power. Otherwise... I don't have the slightest clue so far what separates their discipline from other basic ones. Considering Conjury/Thaumaturgy originally drew from their own mana pools iirc.


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(06-16-2017, 07:09 PM)Riggy Wrote:
(06-16-2017, 06:52 PM)Valic Wrote: Honestly, considering the amount of times he's said Crimson Duelist, I truly wonder what the title will be for this class Dodgy... Jokes aside, I adore this too. Though I'm still hoping they indulge further into what exactly red magic as a discipline is to involve rapiers or how wielding swords makes their magic so good. I took what they said so far to mean they build on their physique to enhance their natural born mana pools rather than just using ambient aether to make up for what a commoner lacks in power. Otherwise... I don't have the slightest clue so far what separates their discipline from other basic ones. Considering Conjury/Thaumaturgy originally drew from their own mana pools iirc.


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(06-16-2017, 07:42 PM)Orrin Malqir Wrote:
(06-16-2017, 07:09 PM)Riggy Wrote:
(06-16-2017, 06:52 PM)Valic Wrote: Honestly, considering the amount of times he's said Crimson Duelist, I truly wonder what the title will be for this class Dodgy... Jokes aside, I adore this too. Though I'm still hoping they indulge further into what exactly red magic as a discipline is to involve rapiers or how wielding swords makes their magic so good. I took what they said so far to mean they build on their physique to enhance their natural born mana pools rather than just using ambient aether to make up for what a commoner lacks in power. Otherwise... I don't have the slightest clue so far what separates their discipline from other basic ones. Considering Conjury/Thaumaturgy originally drew from their own mana pools iirc.


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06-17-2017, 04:30 AM
(06-16-2017, 11:11 AM)Jeanne IX Wrote: Here's some stuff the RDM questgiver had to say:

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Spoiler-RDM doesn't use ambient mana like BLM and WHM
-Sword techniques harness and amplify their spoken incantations. Their "physical form serves as an arcane accelerator", "an ingenious way of preserving their self-imposed limitations" (that is, not using ambient mana).
-Red Mages fight for those enduring violence and subjugation, a bulwark against unkind vagaries of fate
-Revolutionary Red Mages united as Crimson Duelists against the Ala Mhigan king
-Only he survived of the Crimson Duelists, they were crushed
-He never ceased fighting for Ala Mhigo's liberation and allied with the scholars of Sharlayan after hearing of the Calamity

The way he says it, it sounds like not all Red Mages are Crimson Duelists, that was just a group of them. And I didn't get a screen of this, but earlier he says Alisaie sought him out to learn red magic from him some time ago.

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SpoilerApparently Red Mages took upon themselves not to use their white and black magic components to suck the planet dry of its aether, and instead make to do with their own personal aether (which implies they could use the planet's aether like any white and black mage). How do they managed not to kill themselves, is rather vague to me right now, but it seems to hint at their technics focusing it through their blades and weapons.

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