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Jana · **01-12-2015, 11:12 PM**

Quote:My name is Oboro, and she is Tsubame. We hail from a village in Doma, several thousand malms across the sea. We areâ”€ah, but perhaps you have no word for what we are. In our own tongue, one might call us shinobi.

The village is in Doma, but the village isn't Doma. You can double-check the text here.

Naunet · **01-13-2015, 01:56 AM**

(01-12-2015, 11:12 PM)Jana Wrote:
Quote:My name is Oboro, and she is Tsubame. We hail from a village in Doma, several thousand malms across the sea. We areâ”€ah, but perhaps you have no word for what we are. In our own tongue, one might call us shinobi.

The village is in Doma, but the village isn't Doma. You can double-check the text here.

That seems pretty clear to me then. They even refer to it as a province (which implies a region much larger than just one city).

Ashren Dotharl · **01-13-2015, 02:12 AM**

(01-12-2015, 11:12 PM)Jana Wrote:
Quote:My name is Oboro, and she is Tsubame. We hail from a village in Doma, several thousand malms across the sea. We areâ”€ah, but perhaps you have no word for what we are. In our own tongue, one might call us shinobi.

The village is in Doma, but the village isn't Doma. You can double-check the text here.

Hmm, I guess I was mistaken on this one. Still, it's a bit strange that they would completely change the naming conventions for them. We don't call people from Limsa Lominsa La Nosceans, nor do we call people from Ul'dah Thanalanians, so why would they be called Domans if it's the name of their region, when every other nationality is named after their ruling city.

Until we know more I still stand by my theory that Doma is the name of the area and the name of the capital at best, similar to Wutai.

Aduu Avagnar · **01-13-2015, 04:23 AM**

probably because it is a country as opposed to a city state?

People from a city state are named after the city state (i.e. florentines, venetian etc)
people from a country are named after the country.

Naunet · **01-13-2015, 01:28 PM**

Clearly different government structures, yes.

allgivenover · **01-13-2015, 01:59 PM**

(01-13-2015, 04:23 AM)Nako Wrote: probably because it is a country as opposed to a city state?

People from a city state are named after the city state (i.e. florentines, venetian etc)
people from a country are named after the country.

This right here.

Cailean Lockwood · **01-13-2015, 02:04 PM**

Maybe the country AND the city are both called Doma. It's a possibility.

Ashren Dotharl · **01-14-2015, 03:38 AM**

(01-13-2015, 04:23 AM)Nako Wrote: probably because it is a country as opposed to a city state?

People from a city state are named after the city state (i.e. florentines, venetian etc)
people from a country are named after the country.

But it's not really a country though, they call it a Garlean Province which is only part of a country.

Kellach Woods · **01-14-2015, 08:46 AM**

For those of you who are expecting changes to the MSQ based off the Au Ra... don't get your hopes up.

Thancred still fights like a gladiator.

Naunet · **01-14-2015, 09:16 AM**

(01-14-2015, 03:38 AM)Ashren Snow Wrote:
(01-13-2015, 04:23 AM)Nako Wrote: probably because it is a country as opposed to a city state?

People from a city state are named after the city state (i.e. florentines, venetian etc)
people from a country are named after the country.
But it's not really a country though, they call it a Garlean Province which is only part of a country.

It could very well be a country annexed by the Garlean Empire (which is quite large).

Ashren Dotharl · **01-14-2015, 10:36 PM**

(01-14-2015, 09:16 AM)Naunet Wrote:
(01-14-2015, 03:38 AM)Ashren Snow Wrote:
(01-13-2015, 04:23 AM)Nako Wrote: probably because it is a country as opposed to a city state?

People from a city state are named after the city state (i.e. florentines, venetian etc)
people from a country are named after the country.
But it's not really a country though, they call it a Garlean Province which is only part of a country.

It could very well be a country annexed by the Garlean Empire (which is quite large).

That's a good point, former country annexed into Garlean province.

Ashren Dotharl · **01-14-2015, 10:38 PM**

(01-14-2015, 08:46 AM)Kellach Woods Wrote: For those of you who are expecting changes to the MSQ based off the Au Ra... don't get your hopes up.

Thancred still fights like a gladiator.

That much actually makes sense though, because he doesn't even reveal he knows how to fight like a rogue until much later in the story and you don't see him fight again (that I can recall) after the Rogue reveal.

If they retconned him to use two daggers from the start of the story and then you get to the Leviathan part of the MSQ and he whips out a second dagger like it's a big surprise everyone would be confused.

Jack · **01-15-2015, 12:00 AM**

(01-14-2015, 10:38 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote:
(01-14-2015, 08:46 AM)Kellach Woods Wrote: For those of you who are expecting changes to the MSQ based off the Au Ra... don't get your hopes up.

Thancred still fights like a gladiator.
That much actually makes sense though, because he doesn't even reveal he knows how to fight like a rogue until much later in the story and you don't see him fight again (that I can recall) after the Rogue reveal.

If they retconned him to use two daggers from the start of the story and then you get to the Leviathan part of the MSQ and he whips out a second dagger like it's a big surprise everyone would be confused.

In 1.0, Thancred and the other Scions fought Gaius and ol' Thanny pulled out a bunch of Throwing Daggers. So basically he goes rogue when the going gets tough. At least, that's my speculation.

After that mission, everyone in my party thought there was going to be a dagger class. But then the game got scrapped and years later, we got what we wanted.

Ashren Dotharl · **01-15-2015, 12:32 AM**

(01-15-2015, 12:00 AM)Jack Wrote:
(01-14-2015, 10:38 PM)Ashren Snow Wrote:
(01-14-2015, 08:46 AM)Kellach Woods Wrote: For those of you who are expecting changes to the MSQ based off the Au Ra... don't get your hopes up.

Thancred still fights like a gladiator.
That much actually makes sense though, because he doesn't even reveal he knows how to fight like a rogue until much later in the story and you don't see him fight again (that I can recall) after the Rogue reveal.

If they retconned him to use two daggers from the start of the story and then you get to the Leviathan part of the MSQ and he whips out a second dagger like it's a big surprise everyone would be confused.
In 1.0, Thancred and the other Scions fought Gaius and ol' Thanny pulled out a bunch of Throwing Daggers. So basically he goes rogue when the going gets tough. At least, that's my speculation.

After that mission, everyone in my party thought there was going to be a dagger class. But then the game got scrapped and years later, we got what we wanted.

In all fairness though, in 1.0 most of the Circle of Knowing could do things that the player couldn't, like Y'shtola being able to create a giant dome version of Protect or Papalymo casting Gravity to suck in bullets and crush them. Urianger even used to have the old Arcanist staff from its original concept as a debuff/dot/trapper class before it became a pet class.

Recoil · **01-15-2015, 12:42 AM**

I'm still 99% certain they're not going to go back to old content and retroactively edit every quest to acknowledge Au Ra. Edit script that directly references the characters race / class for dialogue purposes, sure, but not redo any actual content.

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