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Aduu Avagnar · **04-20-2015, 02:21 AM**

If I went DRK at any point, it is all dependant on the lore, rather than anything else. That and it allows me to use my HEMA knowledge to even more use Big Grin

just remember, against someone in heavy armour, slashing is actually pretty useless, apart from transfering concusive force. Mordstreich. Murder strokes for everyone Big Grin

Kismet · **04-20-2015, 02:50 AM**

...Meanwhile, I'm just sitting here giggling at "two hands replacing one hand".Â Laugh

Erik Mynhier · **04-20-2015, 03:15 AM**

Erik has been training of late on other weapons for a side project with the Red Wings, and will most likely take on the greatsword along with the few others he has been working on, (Axe and Bow recently). But primarily I think he is a sword and board guy. I wanted the DRK from before day one, and I still intend to explore the job ic as it relates to his father, and definitely ooc for the tanking challenge. But I think Erik will keep his shield in the long run. My real hope is maybe more/better shield models, and the ability to dye more of them.

Saefinn · **04-20-2015, 06:58 AM**

One of my alts, X'hayu, she is a Sultansworn, rather than a Free Paladin, originally I felt Free Paladin would make sense for her, but realised that she basically shares the same morality and principles as the Sultana, so she is somebody she'd get behind, she has previously been military, she is a Garlean defector who has worked hard and selflessly to attain that title, Sultansworn. So the military mentality sticks with her somewhat, so being among the sultansworn suits some of what she knows.

I was umming and ahhing as to whether she should stay a Paladin or go Dark Knight, because she is very broody, moody and has little faith in people - she's done and seen some pretty dark stuff, but her title as a Paladin become a shining light for her, to do good and with a Sultana who believes she should help her people and with her giving refuge to Ala Mhigans and her wanting to give refuge to Domans, X'hayu backed the right horse. So to speak.

But now, here's the spoiler stuff.

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What place does X'hayu have among the Sultansworn now there's no Sultana? Her "faith in humanity" will be ranking quite low and she will be kicking herself because she couldn't prevent it from happening. For a long time, she, and her friend Steinn have been working to undermine the Sultana's opposition for some time. This is where sometimes help from my Pirate crew has come in. The Monetarists are against lending refuge, but the Sultana wishes she could - meaning X'hayu may go behind her back a little and hire a trusted pirate crew to acquire provisions to give to the needy, mainly the Ala Mhigans.

So the fact, with their position in Ul'dah, my characters X'hayu and Steinn will be very down beaten that they couldn't save the Sultana.

This means, X'hayu will be questioning her own position and her own principles, with our pirate crew seeking business in Ishgard (something we have negotiated for probably the best part of a year ICly, with some Ishgard related RP) and having provided business to Ishgardians, this might be the inspiration for X'hayu to end up going down the road of being a Dark Knight, particularly as one of her friends in the pirate crew, is heading down the same road and will likely play influence in their dark thoughts.

I was considering keeping her a Paladin, because don't want to level Dark Knight on 2 characters. Tongue

But this is actually looking like the right direction for her. Dammit.

In this case, Dark Knight will replace Paladin. But, will 2 hands replace 1? I doubt it. She is proficient with a one-handed sword, a person can learn to wield more than one weapon type, this restriction is only a game mechanic issue.

Of course, taking into account of her military background, Dark Knight will be somewhat challenging for her, as she will not be allied to a state, but I might have her follow under Captain Saefinn, if she finds her need to follow somebody. That will be interesting, considering she doesn't like him. He's a drunken lout and can be reckless and unpredictable, she doesn't respect those qualities. Tongue

Steel Wolf · **04-20-2015, 07:44 AM**

Ultimately the population of DRKs will rely on mechanics. RP'ers are no less susceptible to the draw of what's fun than any other MMO gamer.

Case in point--I was positive Steel would be a shining knight, but Paladin ended up being an absolute snore to play as. WAR is better in terms of engagement as well as thematics. Her story has her going to DRK, but whether she maintains the weapon or not is going to be really dependent on how the class feels overall--the combination of gameplay sensation and how the weapon looks on her back or in her hands or how she carries herself while in the Job.

Dogberry · **04-20-2015, 08:18 AM**

(04-19-2015, 08:39 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: unbeknownst to most, swords as a whole have actually been obsolete since the beginning of FFXIV

Charles Barkley Shut Up And Slam Gaiden Online?! You got into the beta for that?! Man, I CAN'T WAIT for that game!

Bryn · **04-20-2015, 08:20 AM**

The ZweihÃ¤nder, or great sword, was very often used by the German Landsknechte in the middle ages. I'm therefore claiming that two-handed swords are old hat to the martial Ala Mhigans, and saying that Bryn already has proficiency with them from her youth. Tongue

That's as far as I'll touch DRK, lore-wise. I may level the class, but while Bryn is generally all over protecting the underdog, she wants nothing to do with Ishgard whatsoever.

Besides, why do you need a job title to do good deeds?

Coatleque · **04-20-2015, 08:23 AM**

Coatleque rarely uses a shield as it is. Even the description of gladiator says the shield is optional. I wish SE would actually implement that. She uses a hand and a half sword, so she can easily switch between both styles.

I don't need to level another class just to RP that concept.

Gegenji · **04-20-2015, 08:26 AM**

As someone mentioned, I'm one of those folks where my PLD will remain a PLD. Even if I end up liking DRK tanking more, Chachan is - as an RP character - a Free Paladin. He'll likely stay sword and board up until I can somehow have him use a smithing hammer in his sword hand (but still keep the shield).

Of course, I will level DRK (and AST and MCH) on Gogon, since he's my "cap everything" character, and Judge has been "waiting" for DRK to drop. So I suppose I cover all the bases on the DRK spectrum - the not doing it, the waiting to do it, and the "do it because it's there"... all spread over my three characters. Laugh

Martiallais · **04-20-2015, 09:26 AM**

I fall in the camp of people who've been waiting on a 2handed sword class to come along since I got on the bandwagon for FFXIV back when 2.0 launched. The announcement that DRK was coming was actually something my FC-leader used to help nudge me back into the game believe it or not LOL.

That said, I want to try and level both PLD and DRK for my (new! shiny!) Elezen so he'll probably alternate between both for RPtimes.

Aduu Avagnar · **04-20-2015, 11:28 AM**

(04-20-2015, 08:23 AM)Coatleque Wrote: Coatleque rarely uses a shield as it is. Â Even the description of gladiator says the shield is optional. Â I wish SE would actually implement that. Â She uses a hand and a half sword, so she can easily switch between both styles.

I don't need to level another class just to RP that concept.

It's a good thing that Swords like the Goblin Longsword are hand and a halfs Tongue

mongi291 · **04-20-2015, 11:46 AM**

Eh, it would be cool if GLA/PLD gained a trait that increased the stats (excluding Weapon Damage) on their swords by 50% (making them equal to Sword+Shield) if no shield is equipped.

Hammersmith · **04-20-2015, 11:54 AM**

Hammer's not a fan of swords. Â He can handle them, it's just a sword doesn't help you break a gate, a door, or a barricade down the same way an axe does. Â He's a siege engineer and soldier. In his fighting style, axes get you through people, armor, and obstacles without blunting, breaking, or chipping, since swords are designed to just go through people.

He's not switching more because he's used to the weapon he has. Â It's honest about what it does, the axe is.

Swords breed a different level of martial culture he doesn't care for, and considers somewhat dishonest.

Which strangely enough, seems to be exactly what spawned in the DRK concept.

TheLastCandle · **04-20-2015, 12:02 PM**

I've long been using the Goblin Longsword and similar models as stand-ins for actual greatswords in my RP. I just hope that not all of the DRK's swords are of the overly fanciful sort. I'd like a fairly historically accurate claidhmore or zweihander to use for Yvelont's family sword. (I'd settle for a slightly larger two-handed version of the Goblin Longsword model!)

Flashhelix · **04-20-2015, 03:42 PM**

(04-20-2015, 08:18 AM)Dogberry Wrote:
(04-19-2015, 08:39 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: unbeknownst to most, swords as a whole have actually been obsolete since the beginning of FFXIV

Charles Barkley Shut Up And Slam Gaiden Online?! You got into the beta for that?! Man, I CAN'T WAIT for that game!

the full title is Tales of Games Presents: Charles Barkley's Shut Up And Jam Online Part 1: The Fury of Cuchulainn Part 3: Part 2 of the Hoopz Barkley SaGa, but yes

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