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Asyria · **07-09-2013, 12:28 AM**

Okay, I guess I kinda lied.

I do love Red Sonja, but lately, it's a couple of superheroes from Ohio that really got straight to my heart.

Drawn here in a more classic superhero comic style, they are normally drawn in a more manga-ish, but they are definitely classic american supers.

Spinnerette is much like Spiderman in that she accidentally got spider powers in a lab, but... but the similarities stop there. As for her partner Mecha Maid... well I don't want to give spoilers. Tongue

So here they are!
[Image: MechaMaid_and_Spinnerette__color_by_TorqueArtStudio.jpg]

And if you're intrigued, they're from a webcomic.

MrHeat · **07-09-2013, 01:12 AM**

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Apocalypse may be a villain to most people, but to me he'll always be a superhero. There is no room for the weak.

Orlog · **07-09-2013, 03:29 AM**

(07-08-2013, 06:40 PM)Uther Wrote: Come at me, bro.

Superman's a straight edge hairless lady man and has a broke ass moral compass.

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MY ARGUMENT IS JUST.

Seriously, though. I could take 'em or leave him. He's never really done much of anything for me, but whatever. He clearly wasn't meant for me.

Shuck · **07-09-2013, 03:55 AM**

(07-08-2013, 06:59 PM)Uther Wrote:

I will. I will come at you, bro.

This image here raises another issue I've got with Superman. He's incapable of truly understanding our plights and issues. His situation is so far removed from ours, that he's never going to get a real grip on what it means to be human.

Look at this. Look at this dismissal. Look at this disregard for us. Look at how disposable we must seem to this Sun God from distant stars.

Fills me with dread.

But. You know who handles his shit exceptionally well, and doesn't pretend to be one of us, or have any real idea what that entails?

Namor. Namor is a joy to read about, not only because he's unrepentant in any of his pursuits, but because he is utterly alien to us. He has an entirely separate set of morals, comes from a culture we know jack about, and still looks at us and says "They deserve a shot."

He pitches himself into our fights, time and again, when he typically has no real reason to invest in us. On one exceptionally notable occasion, he comes to the aid of the X-Men simply out of respect. Scott Summers leaves an impression on him. Scott Summers means nothing to Namor in the long run, but he was willing to stand for his "species", as Namor put it, against the Avengers, and frankly the entirety of the U.S. Government.

In Summers, who is a human being, Namor found something worth saving, and threw in his lot.

Uther · **07-09-2013, 04:21 AM**

(07-09-2013, 03:55 AM)Shuck Wrote: I will. I will come at you, bro.

This image here raises another issue I've got with Superman. He's incapable of truly understanding our plights and issues. His situation is so far removed from ours, that he's never going to get a real grip on what it means to be human.

Look at this. Look at this dismissal. Look at this disregard for us. Look at how disposable we must seem to this Sun God from distant stars.

Fills me with dread.

But. You know who handles his shit exceptionally well, and doesn't pretend to be one of us, or have any real idea what that entails?

Namor. Namor is a joy to read about, not only because he's unrepentant in any of his pursuits, but because he is utterly alien to us. He has an entirely separate set of morals, comes from a culture we know jack about, and still looks at us and says "They deserve a shot."

He pitches himself into our fights, time and again, when he typically has no real reason to invest in us. On one exceptionally notable occasion, he comes to the aid of the X-Men simply out of respect. Scott Summers leaves an impression on him. Scott Summers means nothing to Namor in the long run, but he was willing to stand for his "species", as Namor put it, against the Avengers, and frankly the entirety of the U.S. Government.

In Summers, who is a human being, Namor found something worth saving, and threw in his lot.

We both interpreted that the same way, only I find it an interesting plot point instead of a problem.

I think it's cool to see a side of Superman that isn't 100% understanding and right all the time. Sometimes he accepts his place as an outsider. Sometimes even the Man of Steel runs away from his problems, despite how godly and powerful he looks from a human perspective. I think, ironically, by being that outsider alien he is more human.

He's lived here among us his entire life, but at the end of the day, no matter how much he tries he knows in his heart that he'll never be one of us.

Namor, on the other hand, doesn't give two shits about being one of us. I like Namor, but only in small doses. His arrogance and his condescension aren't as endearing to me as they are for some fans. Whenever he shows up at the X-Mansion and tries to boss people around, I just kind of "ugh" at my comic. The X-Men have enough problems without this high school jock of a super hero trying to tell them what to do, even though he's been underwater pretty much since he found the Capsicle. He definitely has his moments were he admits that he respects the humans and let's them take the reigns, but those moments are few and far between.

Also, no one acknowledged Dr. Fate? He's dark and Lovecraftian and obscure! ...I seriously think I'm the only Fate fan left on Earth.

Martiallais · **07-09-2013, 11:09 AM**

I like Namor a bit (even if he did try to mess up Black Panther so fuck him...BP is another of my personal favorites) but...

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Namor came to aid the X-men because 1) at the time Marvel was billing/re-branding him as the 'first mutant' again. So sure, he might have some respect for Scott Summers, he had some personal interest in helping the X-men against the government (read: Norman Osborn) and the Avengers.

More importantly 2) Namor wanted to get his groove on with Emma Frost again (that's right -again-). Reading through Dark Reign, there's an issue dedicated to their backhistory, not to mention the fact that they had a psychic affair (sound familiar Mr. Summers?) while they were the Phoenix Five.

So sure, Namor's one of several decently cool, sometimes asshole-ish heroes, I wouldn't say he's the kind to do much of anything unless he's getting something out of it. Be it a battle (he does love a good fight), honor/glory, or another chance at defrosting the White Queen (or taking another shot at Sue Storm's invisible panties).

Also, speaking of Doctor Fate, I really liked the approach they took with him in Young Justice, even moreso than in Justice League/Justice League Unlimited.

Uther · **07-09-2013, 11:16 AM**

(07-09-2013, 11:09 AM)Zarek Wrote: I like Namor a bit (even if he did try to mess up Black Panther so fuck him...BP is another of my personal favorites)Â

I agree with everything you said, but this caught my eye the most somehow.

I love Black Panther. I think he was discussed earlier in the thread but I want to stress how much I like the character. He doesn't get a lot of screen time usually, but I think that's one of the reasons I like him. He shows up when he's needed but he doesn't hog the comic. He knows what's important and what isn't.

Martiallais · **07-09-2013, 11:34 AM**

(07-09-2013, 11:16 AM)Uther Wrote:
(07-09-2013, 11:09 AM)Zarek Wrote: I like Namor a bit (even if he did try to mess up Black Panther so fuck him...BP is another of my personal favorites)Â

I agree with everything you said, but this caught my eye the most somehow.

I love Black Panther. I think he was discussed earlier in the thread but I want to stress how much I like the character. He doesn't get a lot of screen time usually, but I think that's one of the reasons I like him. He shows up when he's needed but he doesn't hog the comic. He knows what's important and what isn't.

While I personally feel that he and Storm's marriage was somewhat forced (Hey! We've got two popular, powerful, single black characters, let's put them together!), I did enjoy their reign (as it were) as one of Marvel's power couples. More than anything, I like that Black Panther (same with Cage actually) is a character who has been steadily getting more of a following as people realize 'hey, this is a really solid character who has earned a place on the A list'.

Uther · **07-09-2013, 12:23 PM**

(07-09-2013, 11:34 AM)Zarek Wrote: While I personally feel that he and Storm's marriage was somewhat forced (Hey! We've got two popular, powerful, single black characters, let's put them together!), I did enjoy their reign (as it were) as one of Marvel's power couples. More than anything, I like that Black Panther (same with Cage actually) is a character who has been steadily getting more of a following as people realize 'hey, this is a really solid character who has earned a place on the A list'.

Agreed. I feel like both of them started off as "Shit, it's the 70s and we have no black super heroes." types of quota characters, but they've definitely become very deep and understandable heroes. Admittedly, I like Luke Cage more as a team member than as a solo hero, mainly because of his back-and-forths with Spider-Man. Still though, Cage and BP have definitely both left the stereotypes behind and become amazing characters in their own right.... The same can't be said about Black Lightning....

About the Storm/Panther relationship, you've got a point, though I always made the connection of their places of birth rather than their skin color. Both of them grew up in (or currently live in) Africa, despite being members of primarily American super teams. They could definitely relate to each other with that. I liked them fine as a couple, but I wasn't too heart-broken when they split up. There are more iconic power couples out there.

Abaigeal · **07-09-2013, 12:36 PM**

oh lord. Why would you even post this!! Now youll know all my secrets!!
Marvel:
xmen mutants which switched titles to new xmen:
Laurie Collins /wallflowerÂ
Esme, sophia, irma(mindee), celeste, Phoebe stepfordÂ cuckoosÂ
Noriko Ashida SurgeÂ
Josh Guthrie Icarus

xmen in general :
GambitÂ
Emma frost. (Heeeey she had her good girl moments!deadpool.

Some of the avengers series depending on storyarcÂ

DCÂ
karaÂ Â kent, supergirlÂ
Katrina falcone catgirl (small run in Batman as cat woman's sidekick.)
Pamela Â Isley poisoin ivy (villian I know don't care!!))

holy cow some one else likes doctor fate?? Kent Nelson or his wife?! Tongue

Â

manga;
sailormooNÂ

I have many more I could go on about but my cell phone is not wanting to type as I like!!!

Asyria · **07-09-2013, 12:41 PM**

What about Doctor Strange? :O
They should really give him a movie instead of just remaking everyone else's. o_o

Elkabong419 · **07-09-2013, 01:07 PM**

*Sets a buffet table ripe with pies for all his fellow Comic peoples* Eat! Be merry!

Now... For my favorites (I'll split the lists up between western comics and Manga/Anime):

1) Batman (Though Bruce will always be the bat, I did enjoy when Dick took over for him. It gave a new spin on the character which was nice to read.)

2) Wolverine

3) Booster GoldÂ

4) Spider Man

5) The Magdalena

6) Captain America (Steve Rodgers)

7) Deadpool Corps (They had a small run, but DAMN that comic was fun to read!)

8) Robin (Damien Wayne)

9) Power Girl

10) Gotham City Sirens (As the ensemble. The in between with Ivy, Catwoman and Harley was great!)

Manga/Anime:

1) Robotech/Super Dimensional Fortress Macross (DUH! Just look at my profile picÂ Laugh

Â Again, the whole ensemble through out the whole series was just so well written. I loved watching and reading it.)

2) Vita/Vita Yagami (Magical Lyrical Girl Nanoha)Â

3) Alucard (Helsing)

4) AKB0048

5) Mega Man

6) Zafira (Magical Lyrical Girl Nanoha)

7) Captain Tyler (Irresponsible Captain Tyler)

8) Captain Harlock

9) Grendizer (UFO Robot Grendizer)

10) Mister Popo

Seohyun · **07-09-2013, 01:31 PM**

Psylocke is my favorite. I haven't read many comic books, probably less than a handful, but I remember being shown a few things of Psylocke and Archangel and then really liking her character art and powers. So I ended up going on a wiki to research her and read more about her. Don't think I've done that for any other comic character before.

Martiallais · **07-09-2013, 01:55 PM**

(07-09-2013, 01:31 PM)Seohyun Wrote: Psylocke is my favorite. I haven't read many comic books, probably less than a handful, but I remember being shown a few things of Psylocke and Archangel and then really liking her character art and powers. So I ended up going on a wiki to research her and read more about her. Don't think I've done that for any other comic character before.

Another thumbs up here. Psylocke is a character who, for so many years suffered from a bit of "What do we do with her" type syndrome depending on who was writing her. I think Rick Remender (one of my favorite writers at the moment) including her in Uncanny X-Force did a LOT for her as a character and she's doing some big things finally.

Also, another 'fave' plug....Uncanny X-Force. One of the few series I'd say I've set out to collect the entire run that Remender did on the book before it was relaunched. Being able to take a team of killers, put together to proactively kill enemies/threats to mutants and make it into a deep (One of the big arcs actually left me just staring at the book in shock) and just generally great to read book? Hell yes.

Uther · **07-09-2013, 09:50 PM**

(07-09-2013, 12:36 PM)Abaigeal Wrote: holy cow some one else likes doctor fate?? Kent Nelson or his wife?! Â

I like all Doctor Fates since they're all pretty much the same person, just with different bodies. My favorite is Kent Nelson because 1) He's the first, and 2) Nabu was/is a guy as far as we know and I always pictured his voice sounding deep and scary, so it always seemed goofy when Inza was Doctor Fate. I didn't dislike Inza as Fate, but I just prefer Kent Nelson. Hector Hall wasn't terrible, but I hated when Kent's nephew Kent V. Nelson became Fate without being possessed by Nabu. Seeing Doctor Fate crack jokes made me mad.

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