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Miyu Asuka · **03-08-2012, 05:21 AM**

Sorry for my afkness, been moving and ISP fucked up with the wrong days so no internets... Maybe friday but doubt it.. (I'm at my school where there actually is internets<3)

Anyhow, the main function of the original OOC shell, now called intermission(are they the same shells I wonder though?) was to get RP-ers together in one shell, there never was anything about whether the talking in it was social or just rp related, it was just to get all rp-ers on the server in one shell so we know who rp's and it was easier to instantiate and initiate RP.
Whether there was RP-related discussions, or random social talk wasn't the point what-so-ever... Then again I assumed all rp-ers where mature people who could behave themselves well enough without the need of execive moderation, which i somehow still believe as I see this discussion here.

Anyhow, does it matter when someone it talking about their new car or whatever they wanna talk about? If you don't wanna participate in it, ignore it, put it in a different tab or just mute the shell for a bit, these are all modular options that anyone can do. If you really wanna talk about RP-related discussions (or wanna talk about real life things while there is an rp discussion) by all means do so, but interrupting someone's discussion whether on the internet or in real life -can- be considered rude, then again it -can- be considered needed as well, in the end it all matters on what views the person has, as Eva very well said: we're all unique.

Anyhow, we're all adults here and can solve these trivial things without the need of drama and/or viewing such things as personal attacks.

Cheer up, be positive and look at the world with a smile instead, everything will be fine and there is no need for feeling hate to eachother just because one thinks RP-related discussion should be above real life discussions.

In the end, we all want one thing: To socialize.

So try to think of eachother and see their viewpoint as well.

Also, the maturity of the community is very well seen in this thread, we're all pretyt much polite and so (seem) to respect eachothers opinions and views, I'm sincerely pleased to see on how we all can talk normally without raging with eachother, unlike some other communities. We could set an example!

Love you all<3<3.~

(Off topic: I want my internets back!! ; ; )

Verence · **03-08-2012, 06:56 AM**

Er... If I can respectfully point at my above post regarding making assumptions and speaking for those who haven't spoken...

Actually, I'm not really keen on socializing. I have this pearl for one reason only: to keep abreast of IC events in the RP community. Nothing personal against anyone, I'm just not a friendly person and I don't really get a bang out of talking to people I don't know very well about whatever random topic is drifting about at the moment. I appreciate a lot of people do, and more power to them. I'm just not one of them. That's fine though, I can mute pearl and I do. No complaints from me.

However, I'd also like to point out that we're not all adults and not all at the same level of maturity (though, as always, openly accusing someone else of immaturity only displays the accuser's own). Also, not all of the members of Intermission utilize this forum. Well-wishing and calls for unity are of course important and serve an essential purpose, but without a proposed plan of action or delineated methodology, "Let's all get along" remains a wish and not a resolution. I apologize if my tone seems contrary or aggressive; that's not my intent. I'd just like to point out that saying we all want the same thing isn't necessarily true.

We all have our own reasons and motivations for RPing and our own thoughts on what we'd like to get out of it. We're not going to get along unless we agree to get along, and that's not a one-time decision, it's a dedicated effort. A decision that must be made each and every time someone says something you don't like or don't agree with. Is throwing your hat in the ring worth the disturbance it will cause? Is someone else's expressed view something that cannot go unanswered? Does it threaten you? If so, why? Should you take that out on them publicly or invite them to a private chat so you're not both "playing to the audience" and attempting to score points rather than truly sharing viewpoints? Is it worth saying anything at all?

Honestly, I'd probably have kept quiet if not for the fact that you, Miyu, are actually one of the individuals whose in-shell comments concerned me enough to add that last paragraph to my former post in the first place. I understand that some of your views are at odds with some of others', but I just don't really see the need to jump into the middle a conversation about them with statements that bluntly contradict rather than add to the discussion. It seems... Contrary for the pure sake of contrariness. Different views ought to be appreciated and welcomed, but they ought to be stated respectfully and constructively or kept close to the vest. Please be mindful that a crusade for acceptance does not turn into an attack on differing views.

Miyu Asuka · **03-08-2012, 08:04 AM**

Quote:Saying what you think is not an attack and should not be met with aggression. People have views - often contradictory views - but unless they start pointing fingers and obviously referencing characters or incidents, their opinion ought to be respected.

Quote:Honestly, I'd probably have kept quiet if not for the fact that you, Miyu, are actually one of the individuals whose in-shell comments concerned me enough to add that last paragraph to my former post in the first place.

Errr... If I do I likely haven't realised it myself, if I do/did I appologize for i but like you said people often, almost always have contradictory views. I log in to the game to have fun and/or to relax, talking with people in shels including OOC (Intermission) is included in that, though I'm pretty sure I don't only talk to disagree with people as plenty of times I just talk about various stuff that I fully agree with.
For example the discussion about jobs with Merri and a few others that I can't remember, we all agreed on how we liked how jobs and quests are implemented.

Though I am slightly annoyed, not angry or whatever, that evertime I do say something someone seems to always put a reaction, usually negative, right back at me, whether I am saying the Comunnity is meh or when I praise them, the result is usually the same. It doesn't really matter to me though as I am who I am, if that means I have often contradictory views compared to others so be it.

Verence · **03-08-2012, 09:37 AM**

The two quotes, in proper context, are actually quite consonant - both point at the need for proper consideration in the context of discussing views of roleplaying within the bounds of OoC linkshell discussions. The second merely clarifies the reasoning for the statement of the first.

Please, and I'll say this nicely, don't snip quotes divorced from their context in an attempt to set them against each other. Anything can be made to say anything else by careful word selection; this is the basis of many cults and some wacko religious zealotry. It actually really does annoy the heck out of me when people attempt to turn my words against themselves by divorcing them from their actual perspective and meaning.

That probably sounds aggressive, but it's not really directed at you. I just get tired of how it seems to happen all the time, and it's never a valid representation of the ideas I'd expressed. A sore spot, I suppose. At any rate, I'd be happy to continue this discussion but to prevent this thread from becoming the Miyu And Verence Show, I suggest taking it to PMs! Smile

Miyu Asuka · **03-08-2012, 09:53 AM**

Totally agreed, I didn't want to turn your words against you not mean anythign in any agressive way, nor insulting, nor is it in any way really contributing to the current topic and discussiona t hand.

I do appologize, again. It's a very very busy time and have got a lot of things on my mind that I wont go into detail to, so I am a tad... volatile these days :3

Shien Sarvong · **03-21-2012, 10:07 AM**

I would have weighed in on the other thread, but it was locked, so I guess I'll say it here. Nobody gives a damn what I think and I'm very much aware of that, but I guess I just think it's important that people understand that ostracizing others based on petty squabbles is unforgivable.

*ahem*

Due to the asinine behavior on the part of its members, I will never accept an offer to join the OOC linkshell. That the people responsible for what happened are still welcome in the community at all is appalling and disgusting, because now they're aware that they can do whatever they want and there will be no negative repercussions. I refuse to be a part of that.

Gospel Gestalt · **03-21-2012, 11:17 AM**

I'd like to kindly ask mods to please lock this thread too. The point of this topic has already served its purpose and this thread is already derailed enough as it is. With guidelines in place in the other topic, I really see no point in keeping this thread open either. Please and thank you in advance.

Edricane · **03-21-2012, 11:23 AM**

It's over and done with, things have been handled and it's not going to happen again, if it does it will be taken care of. Please stop trying to drag things out, this thread needs to be locked/deleted whatever.

Smiling River · **03-21-2012, 12:31 PM**

Locking to due Gospel's request.

I am sure this is pointless to say, since those who think it already will not stop doing so because of these words, but I am trying to stay out of all sides of this... incident or whatever you call it. Just trying to keep the peace, and also not silence critique if it's legit and not simply finger pointing. If you /do/ wish to say more on the topic, please start a new thread.

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