(12-11-2017, 06:58 PM)Sophia_Grave Wrote:(12-11-2017, 06:30 PM)Therion The Witch Wrote: Probably an unpopular opinion...
In my opinion. Â If your public, outside of a house and saying something in the public.. assume everything you have said CAN and WILL be used against you in the future.
No need to consent to it, you consented to it already by speaking publicly. Â However that is my personal opinion of it. Â If you need to ask consent for everything in role-play its no longer role-play.
I notice, that some people have issues with this. Â However, the problem with that is as soon as you ask they 'go quiet' and stop talking about such sensitive things that could affect their character.
I've even had it where "Hey, can I listen to you?" "Sure." IC: "I think we should go someplace a bit more quiet."
lol.. its like: "Why even roleplay?"
Although Open Roleplay seems rather .. quiet lately i'm afraid. Â =/
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Well the issue with that is (not that I agree with this response) that not every RP session that happens is considered 'open' and that some people are happy to use locations in the game as private spaces just as a type of 'setting placeholder'. For example, the Pearl Lane is really the only area in the game (among one or two others) that fit the 'shady alley' setting. I personally know people who have used it as such without it actually being the Pearl Lane. I mean, I think that's pretty fair? Some people really like to have a visual setting to stoke their RP creativity. If they didn't, we wouldn't need to RP in the game at all, really.
The point is, you never know the circumstances of an RP session unless you ask and talk to the RPers. That's the challenge with playing any sort of subterfugal character. You're always going to need OOC permission, but you also have to keep it interesting. Outside of that, you'll have to rely on OOC trust that the other person wants the same things out of the experience so you can do what you trying to do, and that's in very short supply when it comes to walkups or RPing with strangers.
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I don't see the fun of being a shady or mysterious character if your neither shady nore mysterious. If its not open. Why are they open? They could always RP in group, but that doesn't really draw attention. So your saying a character should publicly role-play in a shady alley but not expect any shady individuals to listen to them or catch wind of what they are saying? That does not sound really like role-playing to me, that just sounds odd. You are playing in a shady alley for a reason right? There are also a few alleys in the Goblet and even all of the districts which seem out of place where a shady individual could hang out. Honestly though, I think one of the biggest disappointments to FFXIV is the cities not being connected to the districts. I would of loved to have inn rooms around the city and it actually feeling more like a player-city. However, these are all opinions.
It is also no different from being in a bar and overhearing people. Even if your not actively spying on them you can still overhear them IC. Should they not expect to be heard? What if you were just listening to them at a bar and came to sit by them? I mean, you might think its different.. but not really. In the end, the consent thing for open role-play is silly at best. I think its mostly due to inexperience that it bother's people. However, I notice a great many people doing less and less open role-play and hiding in districts and houses now or doing only linkshell things. Which is an alright alternative, but it does get rid of a lot of the chaos and randomness that really can make role-playing fun.
Although.. yeah again! OPINION =)
It just reminds me of people role-playing darker characters, and bragging about how dark they are and how much void powers they have. Then when they learn someone found out about it they scream: "WHERE DID YOU GET THAT INFORMATION!!!!!!111 You must have read it off my bio!" Well.. word passes i'm afraid. Maybe you should not have been so obvious? Also the fact that some times people can simply assume and make up things. For example I remember telling a lie about a character IC to get them ICly in-trouble in another game's RP. It caused a sh*tstorm, because my 'lie' ended up being a truthful thing.. weird enough.