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Not sure it really counts as a ''pet peeve'' since it's one of those obvious annoyances that pretty much everyone agrees with, but it's what happened mostly with me on other MMO's.

 

It's been mentioned before. The whole IC interest in someone transferring over towards OOC. And then it gets to a point where the people will get all anime desu desu on you and sent you hugs for no reason and get very clingy.

 

Further I have a pet peeve about myself, which kinda only applies here in FF for now. I am admittedly a little bit of an elitist. I don't shun or ignore people or anything, but I always want to strive for a perfect lore-accurate story. Seeing as I am new to roleplay on FF.. I'm an ignorant little noob, which I can't stand in the slightest.

 

This kinda goes hand in hand when a lot of people say; ''It's fine, you should do what you want, nobody is gonna mind'' when I -want- them to criticize me to death.

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This kinda goes hand in hand when a lot of people say; ''It's fine, you should do what you want, nobody is gonna mind'' when I -want- them to criticize me to death.

 

I always wonder why people bother making comments like those.  People who like to "do what they want no matter what anyone else thinks" probably wouldn't be asking for input in the first place.

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This kinda goes hand in hand when a lot of people say; ''It's fine, you should do what you want, nobody is gonna mind'' when I -want- them to criticize me to death.

 

I always wonder why people bother making comments like those.  People who like to "do what they want no matter what anyone else thinks" probably wouldn't be asking for input in the first place.

 

I'm in an odd sort of situation with this sort of thing. I'm certainly for trying strange and interesting ideas and approaches - which fits with the "do what you want" camp - but I also think it's a good idea to try and meld that idea as closely as you can to the lore as it's presented. Play around with the gray area, but don't dismiss the stuff that's been straight up said in the game or by the Lore team.

 

Gogon would be a bit of an... extreme case of this, I guess? I took a lot of liberties with what he did with the Soul Crystals he hunted down... but I also tried to keep his mad science from defying anything that was said in the lore. Then again, I constantly worry about what other people think when it comes to stuff like this... which both helps and hinders. :blush:

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Jeebus as this thread goes on I keep finding out I have way more pet peeves than I thought!!!!!!

 

Previously mentioned

*When people make character altering decisions for me .

*Take control of my character.

*Being ignored when you walk up to a group openly RPing in public and try to join in if only just briefly, to add more realism to the world.

 

Newly Realized

*People who try force relationships.

*People whose only goal is ERP.

*People who snub people who don't know much lore and don't try to help them.

*People who don't know lore that refuse help from people trying to help them.

*People who try to make this game into a gritty Game Of Thrones world, when it's clearly a high fantasy world.

*The fact that I now have more pet peeves than I realized.

*Spelling elitists (People make mistakes, okay.)

*People who take OOC offense to IC things.

*People without a sense of humor.

 

Yeah I blame this thread for this. xD 

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Maybe Polonius was talkin to himself there?

 

Even I do when I need a professional opinion...

 

While there's no shortage of soliloquies, that's definitely not one of them.

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Brevity is the soul of wit!

 

This line was said by the most long-winded, moronic character in Hamlet.

 

That doesn't make it untrue.

The fact that it's true is what makes it funny. '3'

 

 

As for the thread, most of mine have already been said, but I have to reiterate the whole book-page-for-one-hair-flip-and-a-hello problem.  In a game with no speech bubbles chat scroll needs to be budgeted in public RP, and I'd rather that space be taken up with conversation than descriptions through emote on what your shoes look like, despite them being right there on your character.

(of course this is mainly for the more 'lax RP like sitting by the campfire, or on the beach enjoying the waves. It's a different thing if shenanigans are afoot.)

 

Edit: Another one that I just remembered: Unless you want your character's accent to be comically unintelligible, don't make your characters dialogue horrifically unreadable with more apostrophes than letters. Some characters I've met over the years had very interesting bios, but I never got to experience those characters' awesomeness e'c's 'ere 'ext 'lwa's look'd 'ike 'is.

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Brevity is the soul of wit!

 

This line was said by the most long-winded, moronic character in Hamlet.

 

That doesn't make it untrue.

 

In a play riddled with displays of wit that are anything but brief, it definitely casts some suspicion on the usefulness of the advice.

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In a play riddled with displays of wit that are anything but brief, it definitely casts some suspicion on the usefulness of the advice.

 

I don't think it's really up to Shakespeare to decide how true it is.  The reason it's so widely quoted is because people see truth in it.  But anyways, this is a bit of a derail.

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In a play riddled with displays of wit that are anything but brief, it definitely casts some suspicion on the usefulness of the advice.

 

I don't think it's really up to Shakespeare to decide how true it is.  The reason it's so widely quoted is because people see truth in it.  But anyways, this is a bit of a derail.

 

People see truth in many wrong things.

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People see truth in many wrong things.

And some, some lonely few, see the true value of Dubiousness.

 

The irony is that Verad would probably see value in the saying. And he is a long-winded sumbitch himself.

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A couple more came to mind:

 

1 - People who include smileys in their RP lines (they're rare, but they're there. Sthap!).

 

2 - The hipocrisy with which people wave the "lore" flag. I get told that RPing the MSQ is against the lore, that RPing a WHM is against and lore and that the devs said so and so.... This couldn't be furthest from the truth to me. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Those who respect the lore the most are those who RP being the WoL and the job he/she is.

 

I'm not against those who decide to disregard the MSQ and who the game tells us we are, but I think it's time we acknowledge that deciding to NOT be the Warrior of Light IS a form of lore-bending. The game says you are the WoL, so if you decide to be any average joe, you are not following what the lore tells you. And that is FINE, of course, but for this same reason, it is also fine to decide to RP a WoL.

 

Lore and "devs said so" really shouldn't be used as weapons against anyone, because we all are bending lore a bit someway, no matter in what shape or form. So let's stop considering one side or the other inferior or disruptive or more lore-breaking than the other. Let us embrace the fact that for the sake of enjoying RP, lore needs to be bent someway, and that it's nobody's fault, only of how the game's story was set up (FFXI for example didn't have this Chosen One issue, the adventurer was just an adventurer who happened to be at the right place at the right moment. It was never a case of "you have this special power, save us!", but more a case of "Oh, an adventurer. Just what I needed. Do this for me!").

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A couple more came to mind:

 

1 - People who include smileys in their RP lines (they're rare, but they're there. Sthap!).

 

2 - The hipocrisy with which people wave the "lore" flag. I get told that RPing the MSQ is against the lore, that RPing a WHM is against and lore and that the devs said so and so.... This couldn't be furthest from the truth to me. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Those who respect the lore the most are those who RP being the WoL and the job he/she is.

 

I'm not against those who decide to disregard the MSQ and who the game tells us we are, but I think it's time we acknowledge that deciding to NOT be the Warrior of Light IS a form of lore-bending. The game says you are the WoL, so if you decide to be any average joe, you are not following what the lore tells you. And that is FINE, of course, but for this same reason, it is also fine to decide to RP a WoL.

 

Lore and "devs said so" really shouldn't be used as weapons against anyone, because we all are bending lore a bit someway, no matter in what shape or form. So let's stop considering one side or the other inferior or disruptive or more lore-breaking than the other. Let us embrace the fact that for the sake of enjoying RP, lore needs to be bent someway, and that it's nobody's fault, only of how the game's story was set up (FFXI for example didn't have this Chosen One issue, the adventurer was just an adventurer who happened to be at the right place at the right moment. It was never a case of "you have this special power, save us!", but more a case of "Oh, an adventurer. Just what I needed. Do this for me!").

 

Is it fine to RP the WoL? Sure. Could it be thought of as inconsiderate to roleplay such an exclusive/special role in walk-up and general public RP? Definitely. Nobody really cares about what people do in more private circles. Still, the simple fact is that running around the Quicksand dropping the fact that you're Hydaelyn's chosen/the Azure Dragoon/Minfilia's ex isn't gonna win you a whole lot of longtime roleplay partners.

 

As for the lore-breaking bit, you could say that, by the same token, anybody who roleplays the WoL is doing so even when somebody else could also be roleplaying the WoL, thus contradicting the ingame lore that there's only one. I think breaking the lore that says you're the chosen one is far more acceptable than breaking the lore that says it's not possible for a seventeen year-old to be the Godsbow and Azure Dragoon at the same time.

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A couple more came to mind:

 

1 - People who include smileys in their RP lines (they're rare, but they're there. Sthap!).

 

2 - The hipocrisy with which people wave the "lore" flag. I get told that RPing the MSQ is against the lore, that RPing a WHM is against and lore and that the devs said so and so.... This couldn't be furthest from the truth to me. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Those who respect the lore the most are those who RP being the WoL and the job he/she is.

 

I'm not against those who decide to disregard the MSQ and who the game tells us we are, but I think it's time we acknowledge that deciding to NOT be the Warrior of Light IS a form of lore-bending. The game says you are the WoL, so if you decide to be any average joe, you are not following what the lore tells you. And that is FINE, of course, but for this same reason, it is also fine to decide to RP a WoL.

 

Lore and "devs said so" really shouldn't be used as weapons against anyone, because we all are bending lore a bit someway, no matter in what shape or form. So let's stop considering one side or the other inferior or disruptive or more lore-breaking than the other. Let us embrace the fact that for the sake of enjoying RP, lore needs to be bent someway, and that it's nobody's fault, only of how the game's story was set up (FFXI for example didn't have this Chosen One issue, the adventurer was just an adventurer who happened to be at the right place at the right moment. It was never a case of "you have this special power, save us!", but more a case of "Oh, an adventurer. Just what I needed. Do this for me!").

 

Is it fine to RP the WoL? Sure. Could it be thought of as inconsiderate to roleplay such an exclusive/special role in walk-up and general public RP? Definitely. Nobody really cares about what people do in more private circles. Still, the simple fact is that running around the Quicksand dropping the fact that you're Hydaelyn's chosen/the Azure Dragoon/Minfilia's ex isn't gonna win you a whole lot of longtime roleplay partners.

 

As for the lore-breaking bit, you could say that, by the same token, anybody who roleplays the WoL is doing so even when somebody else could also be roleplaying the WoL, thus contradicting the ingame lore that there's only one. I think breaking the lore that says you're the chosen one is far more acceptable than breaking the lore that says it's not possible for a seventeen year-old to be the Godsbow and Azure Dragoon at the same time.

 

No one of the MSQ RPers I know has ever brought it up in open RP, so I don't get where everyone is getting from with these statements. All the "you can't RP a WoL, you're being a special snowflake" comments have always and only come from either the forum posts or OOC conversations with other RPers, and that's what irks me. Everyone is prejudging that we will go around and about boasting, but nobody has ever actually seen us doing that, because we don't, in fact. So I'd really love to stop hearing these things when in fact, they do not happen.

 

Also, there can be more than one WoL. The Lore Team has contradicted the game in several things already, and this is just one of them. The lv5 cutscenes shows many other adventurers responding to Hydaelyn's call. Yours just happens to be the one that the camera follows.

 

But I digress these are all side-things. It's the "you're breaking the lore" statement that I find off-putting, because it is absolutely not true.

 

Also quick edit: Yes, to claim to be Minfilia's ex would be breaking the lore, because the game tells you absolutely nothing of the sort. What I'm saying is, what the game says is closer to the lore than what the Lore Team says, to me. If the lore team says the Nuhns are rarely the leaders of the tribe, but then I see the U tribe with a Nuhn chieftain and its members say things like "the word of the Nuhn is the law", then I will trust the game more than the Lore Team. If the Lore Team says "only you can be the Warrior of Light", but then I see NPCs talk about multiples Warriors of Light from 1.0 and multiple adventurers responding to Hydaelyn's call (not to mention those that fight primals with me. How do they do not get thralled? They have to have the Echo too.), then I will trust the game's lore over the Lore Team more. If the Lore Team says most of Eorzea is illiterate but then I get a hundred quests where I hand over notes and letters to NPCs and they read them, then I will trust the game's lore over the Lore Team more, and so on.

 

Remember that the Lore Team is made of people, and people make mistakes. The game is a written story, and it will always same the same thing no matter what, so it's more reliable. Would you trust more to read the story from a book, or to listen it being told by those who work for the writer?

 

But back on topic: please stop the smileys in RP lines.

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Also, there can be more than one WoL. The Lore Team has contradicted the game in several things already, and this is just one of them. The lv5 cutscenes shows many other  adventurers responding to Hydaelyn's call. Yours just happens to be the one that the camera follows.

 

It's not... quite a contradiction.

 

 

 

Considering who else is identified as a Warrior of Light in the MSQ. Leaving it vague even in spoiler tags so people can find out themselves!

 

 

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[[steps in as a mod]]

 

I'd like to remind people to keep the thread on topic.

 

If you'd like to discuss what constitutes a Warrior of Light (and how that definition has changed from 1.0 to 2.0/3.0), I would suggest opening a new thread.

 

[[steps out of the thread.]]

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Nothing really annoys me more than people that will start to RP with one of my characters, realize that the character is entirely devoted to his significant other, and then never RP with them again. Well, no. What annoys me more is when people realize the aforementioned and decide to try to weasel their way in by.. well. Doing things, flirting OOC, trying to start rumors/falsify things--basically being a creeper in an attempt to break the characters up through other means.

 

I really don't mind when things happen IC and they stay IC. It brings a lot of decent and fun RP to the table. But I've found that most of the time, people don't do the RP and, instead, ask me/my partner about us and how long we've been partners and how close we are and what certain characters are like sexually and blahblah. "Will your character ever try to seduce mine? Don't worry I can take care of your partner" and such is just.. lol. Yes, we tell each other everything. No, you aren't being as slick as you think you are. It's just weird and strange and no. Go find your ERP/whatever somewhere else.

 

Edit: Thought of something else! It's not really annoying so much as I wish people would just stop in general. Many see my character with his significant other and assume we want to be alone/don't want someone to walk up and say hi. It's absolutely the opposite! If we're in public RPing them, we want people to come up and RP with us! If we wanted them to have private conversations, they'd be in the privacy of their home/rooms :)

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On Val's note, another thing I'm reminded of as a RP pet peeve is the impossibility to RP a fail casanova. It must be because this game really offers no way to be physically unattractive, but single people just will not reject me if I try to RP a fail casanova.

 

No matter how bad-mouthed, sexist, jerk and overall asshole I make Clive, if I try make him flirt with someone who isn't in my circle of friends (who know he's supposed to be a fail casanova), he'll always succeed and never get a no. It's... frustrating. Is it a case of people having very low standards for partners, or do I just RP a fail casanova wrong? Who knows...

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No matter how bad-mouthed, sexist, jerk and overall asshole I make Clive, if I try make him flirt with someone who isn't in my circle of friends (who know he's supposed to be a fail casanova), he'll always succeed and never get a no. It's... frustrating. Is it a case of people having very low standards for partners, or do I just RP a fail casanova wrong? Who knows...

There aren't that many unattached male characters, that definitely helps out :)

 

I always appreciate running into guys who will flirt, they're not all that common, and its a fun form of RP that fits Aya all too well!

 

Nothing really annoys me more than people that will start to RP with one of my characters, realize that the character is entirely devoted to his significant other, and then never RP with them again. Well, no. What annoys me more is when people realize the aforementioned and decide to try to weasel their way in by.. well. Doing things, flirting OOC, trying to start rumors/falsify things--basically being a creeper in an attempt to break the characters up through other means.

Well, this is just life.  For singles, other singles are vastly more interesting.  I've heard the line, "I'm just married, not dead!" more than once when it comes to recently married friends trying to maintain their relationships to friends.  The opposite is also true: couples tend to hang out together.

 

Everything else you mention, well, welcome to the low-side of life I guess :) there are just people like that unfortunately.  They do the same thing in real-life relationships and sometimes they succeed.

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No matter how bad-mouthed, sexist, jerk and overall asshole I make Clive, if I try make him flirt with someone who isn't in my circle of friends (who know he's supposed to be a fail casanova), he'll always succeed and never get a no. It's... frustrating. Is it a case of people having very low standards for partners, or do I just RP a fail casanova wrong? Who knows...

There aren't that many unattached male characters, that definitely helps out :)

 

I always appreciate running into guys who will flirt, they're not all that common, and its a fun form of RP that fits Aya all too well!

 

Yeah, it's what I wanted to do when I originally created him. But I'm OOCly too uncomfortable to RP beyond the flirting, so that is why I wanted him to fail at it. But it doesn't work, and the person my character hits on gets condescending, and then she wants to get physical and...

 

...and then I have to figure out to get the hell out of there, because I don't want to RP that stuff >_< ....

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Yeah, it's what I wanted to do when I originally created him. But I'm OOCly too uncomfortable to RP beyond the flirting, so that is why I wanted him to fail at it. But it doesn't work, and the person my character hits on gets condescending, and then she wants to get physical and...

 

...and then I have to figure out to get the hell out of there, because I don't want to RP that stuff >_< ....

There are real guys who are exactly the same.  Unexpected success can make for fun and awkward situations at the same time!

 

And sometimes you'll find someone who's just happy to flirt back :-]

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Yeah, it's what I wanted to do when I originally created him. But I'm OOCly too uncomfortable to RP beyond the flirting, so that is why I wanted him to fail at it. But it doesn't work, and the person my character hits on gets condescending, and then she wants to get physical and...

 

...and then I have to figure out to get the hell out of there, because I don't want to RP that stuff >_< ....

There are real guys who are exactly the same.  Unexpected success can make for fun and awkward situations at the same time!

 

And sometimes you'll find someone who's just happy to flirt back :-]

 

That's the thing, they ALL seem happy to :dazed:, and I can't even tell them "um, could you please reject him? He's supposed to be bad at this.", because that'd be scripting how others RP.

 

I digress... I just wish girls had a lil higher standards out there! Sure your da wouldn't approve a bachelor like Clive!

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